[AccessD] Microsoft Office Professional 2021 for Windows: Lifetime License | TechSpot

Thu Jun 23 13:01:13 CDT 2022

When I was 59 years old I had a new small office business client that had bought personal business licenses from an "online discount price" site. The keys worked but I also know exactly what this fellow told you. I'm an MS Cloud Services partner (or whatever they call us this week). I sell 100s of licenses a month. We get a few percentages off the list price.

I file a support case with Microsoft concerning the site in question. While they agreed that it is not a valid reseller they would tell me if they did anything about it or not.

The business office that had purchased the licenses this way would not relinquish them and purchase them properly so they could actually utilize the 365 cloud mgt (personal business licenses bought via Microsoft.com aren’t the same as business license - all very confusing). And move on to fully utilizing the 365 cloud environment. So it was a nightmare mix of licensing they would need and they were constantly confused over how to manage those and because they were so cheap about that I just walked away. One hour of my time was coasting them more than if they would've have just switched to real licenses. When I turned 60 I decided my retirement plan is to only work with people I like in environments I enjoy working in. it was a profitable year I spent with them but that office didn’t fit my criteria...

Avoid saving a penny by spending a dollar.

John B

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From: AccessD <accessd-bounces+jbartow=winhaven.net at databaseadvisors.com> On Behalf Of Paul Wolstenholme
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Microsoft Office Professional 2021 for Windows: Lifetime License | TechSpot

Hi,

So I asked my local computer shop about this deal and this is what he said (for those of you not in New Zealand his reference to IRD relates to our government's tax authority [like the IRS in the USA] and his sell price equates to United States $664):

"When the offer looks “Too Good To Be True” it is because it is in fact a false offer.

The site claims to offer you 85% off Microsoft Office.

You will not ever get 85% off a genuine Microsoft Office product.

There are a large number of reasons behind the scenes that make such a discount level not possible unless you qualify for the Microsoft Charity Price List that is for registered not-for profit charity organisation who can provide a valid IRD charity status certificate and their discount is large but not 85%.

The Two ways such an offer can be made.

They either have “stolen” a charity organisations license and are selling it with or without the owners knowledge and consent or they have a “pirated” or “cracked” copy out of China that cost them nothing.

If the non-profit is caught and it can be proven they were aware of the theft then they can have their non-profit tax exemption revoked plus face prosecution.

When you install the product, you agree to the actual Microsoft Terms and Conditions that include $10,000 USD penalty for private user or $50,000 USD penalty for a business user.

Either way they are selling a fake license at 100% profit that put the purchaser in the position of “receiving stolen goods” and liable for legal penalty from law enforcement plus penalty prosecution from Microsoft.

The vendor is almost always in a country that does not restrict nor prosecute such activity.

Microsoft have got very clever at catching these offenders and we think that they embed “pirate copy detection” tools inside the Windows Updates but that is unproven.

When Microsoft catch a user with such a copy, they usually threaten legal action and penalty but allow the user to escape such action if they pay Microsoft full retail.

Most users pay Microsoft full retail for each copy and breathe a sigh  of relief.

We can supply a genuine MS Office Pro Perpetual License. It  is available $1,060."

I know he has an incentive to put me off this deal - but does anybody have facts that can refute his statements?

Paul Wolstenholme

On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 at 13:19, Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
wrote:

> Office 2021 Pro Plus Retail installed , registered and running.
>
> Looking at the Licence, you CAN transfer it to another machine (so 
> it's a good idea to download the offliine image and archive it 
> somewhere along with the Licence key (presumably only if you sign in 
> to the same MS account you used when you first downloaded and 
> installed - I have a couple of MS accounts and initally had a problem 
> licencing Office because WIndows was using a different MS account to 
> the one I used for the licence.  Changing the MS account resolved the 
> issue)
>
> Here's the relevant licence section:
> Stand-alone software acquired from a retailer. If you acquired the 
> software from a retailer as stand-alone software, you may transfer the 
> software to another device that belongs to you, but no more than once 
> every 90 days (except due to hardware failure, in which case you may 
> transfer sooner). If you transfer the software to another device, that 
> other device becomes the "licensed device." You may also transfer the 
> software to a device owned by someone else if (i) you are the first 
> licensed user of the software and
> (ii) the new user
> agrees to the terms of this agreement. Every time you transfer the 
> software to a new device, you must remove the software from the prior 
> device. You may not transfer the software to share licenses between 
> devices.
>
>
>
> On 23 Jun 2022 at 9:53, Stuart McLachlan wrote:
>
> > Looks like it is a full retail licence, not OEM.
> >
> > I just got it.  After getting a LicenceCode you ar directed to the 
> > Microsoft site to install. I entered the Licence Code on the 
> > microsoft site and they offered me Office 2021 Pro Plus. I picked 
> > "offline installation" and have just downloaded the 4.2GB image 
> > directly from micorosoft.
> >
> > The filename from MS is :ProPlus2021Retail.img
> >  --
> > Stuart
> >
> > On 22 Jun 2022 at 7:46, Jim Dettman via AccessD wrote:
> >
> > > 2. One install on one PC literally means that most likely.  It's 
> > > probably an OEM license they are selling, and those don't include 
> > > transfer rights.  You get to install it on one PC and that will be 
> > > it.
> > >   If your motherboard goes, you'll be buying a new copy.
> > >
> >
> >
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