[AccessD] A sad tale of wifi hotspot interference
jwcolby at gmail.com
Sun Oct 2 15:04:47 CDT 2022
On average no, you can't disable them. So what I did was modify when and
how often they make the attempt.
On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 3:14 PM Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Is there a way to disable those checks?
> On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 12:59 PM John Colby <jwcolby at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Wow, just wow!!! Things are never as simple as we expect. Much more
> > startup data usage. Tracked down a TON MORE, which are startup tasks for
> > everything that runs. Pretty much every app that wants to update itself
> > sets a startup task. Many of which run every day, every login, or even
> > whenever the computer is idle. Google, Firefox, Edge, VS CODE, DropBox,
> > OneDrive, Office etc etc ad nauseum. All of these going out to check if
> > they have any updates. These are scheduled tasks, the task created by
> > installer (or Windows if it is a windows app). It's no damned wonder
> > is a 10 minute burst of activity on my WAN connection every time I log
> > Which is my hotspot when I'm on the road.
> > This activity is (at least when throttled?) about 600kbit/second, which
> > translates to about 4.5 mbyte / minute. Which goes on for a loooong
> > Office for example checks every time I log on. On a day to day basis I
> > not even use Office. but hey, it is checking. I NEVER use Edge. But
> > it is (was) checking. I NEVER use OneDrive, but hey, it WAS checking.
> > truth, over a wired internet I never cared. But over my hotspot, which
> > my norm now, I very much care. We shall see how much of a dent I have
> > in my hotspot usage. As I mentioned previously, I was hitting my 15 gb
> > midway through my billing month. All so Google etc could make sure it
> > the latest updates 10 times a day.
> > On Sat, Oct 1, 2022 at 1:34 AM John Colby <jwcolby at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > As some of you may know, I use my phone's wifi hotspot a lot. I have
> > > Verizon and each line (phone) gets 15gb of data before being severely
> > > throttled, as in ~800kbit / second down. Understand that my phone
> > > is not throttled, I have unlimited data directly on the phone. Once
> > > throttled, just opening anything in the browser on the computer becomes
> > > excruciatingly slow.
> > >
> > > I don't watch youtube or other videos on my computer, doing so on my
> > > phone, exactly because of the above facts.
> > >
> > > For two months running, I was hit with wifi hotspot throttling about
> > > (billing) month. WTF over? I went on a quest to figure out why.
> > > task manager, and from inside of there using resource manager I
> > discovered
> > > that in any browser, videos often start playing as soon as I open many
> > > different web sites. Usually these are advertisements, though not
> > always -
> > > I browse a lot of news sites and they want to feed me video to go along
> > > with the text. I use mostly Firefox and so I figured out how to turn
> > > automatic launching of video. That helped immensely, but did not
> > entirely
> > > fix the problem.
> > >
> > > Believe it or not, Dropbox was a major contributor to the problem. The
> > > updater (for updating dropbox itself, not the files stored in dropbox)
> > is a
> > > data consuming pig. According to folks on the dropbox forum, since
> > > (at least) people have been complaining about this, without any
> > meaningful
> > > response to the complaints, other than "you agreed in the EULA to let
> > > update dropbox anytime and as much as we want."
> > >
> > > According to some folks, the updater.exe can consume hundreds of
> > megabytes
> > > a day. I can't personally validate that claim but I will say I see
> > dropbox
> > > consuming hundreds of megabits / second essentially non-stop for long
> > > periods, so I have no reason to doubt that it adds up to a number like
> > that.
> > >
> > > Dropbox simply refuses to add any "manual update" option. I can turn
> > > the services and set them to manual, but the updater.exe still runs,
> > > though it is not visible in the startup stuff in task manager. The
> > > way to disable it is to close it in task manager, then rename the exe.
> > > Reboot and... all is now quiet on my hotspot WAN.
> > >
> > > My Verizon billing cycle starts around the second and so I will get a
> > > fresh 15gb of data. It will be interesting to see if these measures
> > solve
> > > my problems. I will say that before this investigation I had a
> > > 600 kbit / second of wireless data traffic, and now I have zero
> > > continuous.
> > >
> > > Oddly, even editing a message like this in GMail causes continuous
> > > of data, probably due to constant crap that gmail does as I write an
> > > email. Stop typing and the data spikes stop.
> > >
> > > I used to think that 15gb was a lot. Not any more. I now open task
> > > manager and keep an eye on the wan usage while on my hotspot.
> > > is a royal PITA. If there is no constant data being used by one of
> > > data hogs, then ordinary browsing is easy and fast. Not so much when
> > some
> > > app is grabbing 600k of my (throttled) 800kbps.
> > >
> > > If any of you have run into this and have other helpful suggestions
> > please
> > > do chime in.
> > > --
> > > John W. Colby
> > > Colby Consulting
> > >
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