[AccessD] MS 365 Upgrade to Family

Mon Feb 27 20:08:22 CST 2023

https://books.libreoffice.org/en/GS70/GS7013-GettingStartedWithMacros.html#:~:text=The%20most%20powerful%20macros%20in,macro%20scripting%20language%2C%20LibreOffice%20Basic.

"Many programmers may not be familiar with LibreOffice Basic, so LibreOffice supports macros written in three other languages that may be more familiar: BeanShell, JavaScript, and Python."

I'm comfortable with VBA and Windows API calls for most of the MS Office suite and have coded in Access, Word, Powerpoint, Excel, Project and even Outlook before Microsoft gimped most of the useful Outlook functionality.  Libre Office certainly offers options.

I wonder whether Microsoft ever fixed the Sendkeys VBA bugs before spending time messing with the interface and making it ever more mouse dependent.  I expect that the Sendkeys bug still exists after over 25 years of being well known and understood.  The help files were once extensive and rich with samples and readily accessible back in 97 and 2000 versions.  I paid for the 2003 suite and that's the end of me paying Microsoft for anything other than Windows.  My current home PC has been running an unregistered unactivated version of Windows for 4 years and it won't allow me to directly modify user preferences but otherwise runs without complaint. My newest laptop came with Windows so I guess they got one pound of flesh.

Jurgen Welz
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From: AccessD <accessd-bounces+jwelz=hotmail.com at databaseadvisors.com> on behalf of John Colby <jwcolby at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2023 2:13:33 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] MS 365 Upgrade to Family

I also use LibreOffice.  However it has no vba compatible anything so for
programming I use MS Access and VBA.

On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 4:24 PM Paul Wolstenholme <
Paul.W at industrialcontrol.co.nz> wrote:

> Arthur,
>
> I recommend installing www.portableapps.com<http://www.portableapps.com> and installing LibreOffice
> Portable Still from that.  Updates are automatic (and bundled with updates
> to other useful PortableApps stuff).
> The LibreOffice Portable Fresh version updates itself more often than I
> would like.
> Installing LibreOffice directly from  LibreOffice never was good at keeping
> itself up to date without a manual process to update each PC that I
> tired of.  I switched from OpenOffice to LibreOffice way back at version 4.
> I did have to tell windows that various file types should be opened using
> the LibreOffice .exe  located within the hard drive folder structure I
> assigned PortableApps to use.  That is a one time exercise per PC.
>
> This could save you from getting frustrated in a few years time after
> microsoft convince their customers to use even newer features designed to
> not work in today's LibreOffice.  Compatibility will be maintained.
>
> Paul Wolstenholme
>
> On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 at 00:50, John Colby <jwcolby at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Well hello there.  Long time no see.
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 1:32 AM Juergen Welz <jwelz at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I've had some experience with Libre Office and there's some funky stuff
> > > but the price is certainly right and its support for most of the MS
> > office
> > > suite file formats is really brilliant.  But then, I still own Office
> > 2003
> > > and still write some new Access code on Win 11 PCs with it.  I just did
> > > some soccer team management and spectator photo pass retrieval via QR
> > code
> > > scan input.  Why get a two ton press when all you need is a single
> light
> > > tap with a hammer.  I gave up on buying updated Microsoft applications
> > when
> > > they introduced the ribbon.
> > >
> > > Jurgen Welz
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: AccessD <accessd-bounces+jwelz=hotmail.com at databaseadvisors.com>
> > on
> > > behalf of Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2023 7:42:50 PM
> > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <
> > > accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] MS 365 Upgrade to Family
> > >
> > > This aggravation proved just too much, I've decided to abandon the MS
> > suite
> > > and begin learning the LibreOffice stuff, for starters.
> > >
> > > I will still keep my old 2016 versions, but I think that my experience
> > > today sort of broke the bond I thought we had.
> > >
> > > I think that it's time to explore LibreOffice and PostGrSQL in depth.
> > >
> > > I realize that I am a krill in their ocean of customers, but given that
> > I'm
> > > retired, who gives a s**t about what I think? I'm going to embark on an
> > > intensive program studying the LibreOffice stuff, concentrating on Base
> > > (its DBMS), but  looking to see what I can duplicate in the absence of
> > VBA.
> > > I know that Base offers an equivalent language, so that's Step One.
> Then
> > we
> > > shall see where it goes from there.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 6:42 PM Kathryn Bassett <kathryn at bassett.net>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > And Family comes with 5 more seats, so I've installed on Dave, my
> > sister,
> > > > and 2 of Arlene's computers.
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: AccessD <accessd-
> > > > > bounces+kathryn=bassett.net at databaseadvisors.com> On Behalf Of
> Susan
> > > > > Harkins
> > > > > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2023 11:47 AM
> > > > > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > > > > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] MS 365 Upgrade to Family
> > > > >
> > > > > I can only speak from my own experience. My 365 license comes with
> > all
> > > > the
> > > > > Power apps and some of them are powerful apps. With the Power apps
> > and
> > > > > SharePoint (which comes with my 365 license), I have an incredible
> > > number
> > > > > of easy-to-use tools at my disposal. I'd not go back.
> > > > >
> > > > > Susan H.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What's the advantage then of 385 over say O2021?
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
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