[dba-SQLServer] OT-Alternative Front Ends

Charlotte Foust cfoust at infostatsystems.com
Tue Jul 6 15:38:44 CDT 2004


I don't have to google her.  Billy Rose mounted  (you should pardon the
expression) the production and there was a naughty rhyme at the time
about the two of them, perhaps a Dorothy Parker gem.  I wasn't born yet
but I've read a lot about that era and I've seen publicity pictures of
Sally, complete with huge ostrich feather fans which she used to more or
less cover herself during her dance.  Janet Jackson could have learned a
lot from Sally. <VBG>

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholson, Karen [mailto:knicholson at gpsx.net] 
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 8:24 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Alternative Front Ends


You have to google her.  She did a wardrobe malfunction in 1933 or
something like that at the World's Fair.  Arthur is showing his age.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
Charlotte Foust
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 12:06 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Alternative Front Ends


Complete with ostrich feather fans?  Sally Rand was a fan dancer, not a
stripper.  

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 7:29 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
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You should see my demos! :)

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Nicholson, Karen
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 11:09 AM
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A Stripper?  Your programming theory is based on a stripper?  This is
great news, not the stripper, the performance.  

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Arthur
Fuller
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 11:04 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
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I have an ADP that hits a SQL database with approximately 50K customers,
most of which have only a few orders, while most of the orders have
about 5 details. No problems. Granted, I rely heavily on sprocs to
deliver the data, as well as what I call the Sally Rand principle.
(Sally was a famous stripper way back when, who coined the phrase, "Show
them just enough to maintain their interest." I try to emulate that
principle in my designs. I.e., I show one form displaying only a list of
company names; select one and then I make visible the subform that shows
the details of said customer. Many examples like this; the point is,
read in as little data as possible, then wait for a user action.)

Strictly for testing purposes, I have created a db called BIG that
contains 1M parent rows, 10M child rows and 100M grandchild rows.
Relationships are declared and autoForm was used to generate the forms
that talk to these tables. I then modified the parent form to include a
"finder" on the header that accepts a few letters of the company name,
then executes a sproc that performs a LIKE command. The performance is
excellent.

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Lawrence (AccessD)
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 11:20 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Alternative Front Ends


Hi David:

There are FEs that are designed to handle more clients like web based
ones. There is a trade off as they are slower and do not have as many
features.

The new vb.net have the capability to be the FE, data web connection and
sever side database interface. I have not actually created an
applications with the product yet but if it lives up to current
billing...

An Access FE will work with hundreds of customers. The main issue is
what type of BE do you have. It would have to be a SQL DB; SQL2000,
Oracle, MySQL etc. on a server or severs of significant power, depending
on the application. That volume of data is far beyond an Access MDB.

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of David
Emerson
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 4:48 PM
To: dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Alternative Front Ends


Group,

A company I am contracting to what to know if there are any "higher"
alternatives to Access adp's.  They are concerned that Access may not be
powerful enough to handle databases with monthly accounts for say
200,000 customers.

Any comments?

Regards

David Emerson
Dalyn Software Ltd
25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
Wellington, New Zealand
Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
Mobile 027-280-9348

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