[dba-Tech] Security measures

Francisco H Tapia my.lists at verizon.net
Thu Aug 28 12:31:10 CDT 2003


Like I said John, run out and get yourself into some gambling.. you are 
just hitting winners, with that luck you won't ever have to work another 
day in your life ;o)

why rebuilt? what happend?


-- 
-Francisco

John Colby wrote:

> Well, as I've stated before, anyone doing the XP thing....
> 
> I have been using 2K for many years and nary a problem.  And yes, I run
> updates virtually weekly.  Probably close to a hundred by now.  I recently
> rebuilt one computer when I swapped my main disk, and ran updates for
> literally a full day (at cable modem speeds) getting them all installed.  As
> for software, I am a developer.  I have the .net thing going, Office
> 97/2k/XP, Dreamweaver, Fireworks, Roxio, Streets & Trips, Adobe Photoshop, a
> slew of camera and digital video apps, several dot matrix printers, SQL
> Server, IIS, Yahoo / MSN / AOL chats, Chess.net for Windows, NAV and who
> knows what else.
> 
> I am not exactly your typical clueless user using his komputr to surf the
> web.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.colbyconsulting.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Francisco H
> Tapia
> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 7:13 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Security measures
> 
> 
> 
> You my friend should fly to Vegas... you're lucky beyond your own
> limits!  buy some lotto tickets... gamble on the big game... go down to
> the track.. do it now while you're still HOT! HOT! HOT!!!!
> 
> all joking aside, you may either
> 1) not be running updates as often as you think.
> 2) not setting the pc's to auto-update.
> 3) not running that much software as to find the problems from each
> patch and hotfix.
> 
> back when I still had my win98 machine (AMD K6-3D) I used to religiously
> update my system via the windows update, then they updated the program
> so that you could update w/o sending any info to Microsoft.  This was
> the beginning for me... I downloaded security patch after security patch
> to find that my system eventually couldn't open IE w/o crashing... then
> I had to use a 2ndary browser like netscape 4 just to get back on the web.
> 
> A co-worker of mine mentioned that he was on the windowsupdate bandwagon
> that was until PRE SP4 was loaded on his machine and he began to get
> wierd errors and eventually it affected his user profile.  now he's not
> run a windows update since.. he loaded through SP2 for win2k, and all
> the required hotfixes to keep his system secure but nothing runs through
> the windowsupdate.  Even so much as recently there have been reports of
> patches not working right like in winXP sp1 and it causing either
> slowdowns or lockouts... etc.  you dont' have to take my word for it
> just read the problems that creep  up continously on TechTV.com or
> Woodyswatch.com or other web-zines...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> -Francisco
> 
> John Colby wrote:
> 
> 
>>It's strange that so many people report problems with Windows updates.  I
>>have 4 computers - an OLD dual Pentium II 233, a "newer" Toshiba laptop
> 
> PII
> 
>>233, and two ~2 year old "modern" computers (1.4g AMD Athlon -
> 
> "homebuilt").
> 
>>I run windows update religiously and have never had a problem on any of
>>them.  Win2K Pro, Office 97/2k/XP, NAV, etc.
>>
>>Further I was the Sys Admin for the screw company and regularly updated
>>their ~12 computers - Gateway / Dell.  Always just applied all SPs,
> 
> updates.
> 
>>Always worked.
>>
>>John W. Colby
>>www.colbyconsulting.com
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Francisco H
>>Tapia
>>Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 5:17 PM
>>To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Security measures
>>
>>
>>Steven W. Erbach wrote:
>><snip>
>>
>>>VERY good advice. I use Norton Ghost on a regular basis though I have
>>
>>never
>>
>>
>>>needed to make the Ghosted drive the main drive due to a failure of the
>>>primary. I assume that all that needs to be done is for the master/slave
>>>jumpers to be moved around and you're back in business, right?
>>
>>
>>I create images not ghost to a mirror drive... the diffrence is you can
>>(depending on the amount of data on your main hdd) have 2-3 or more
>>images on one hdd... I've got an old 300mb Original image for win2k w/
>>nothing loaded except the SP2 patch and Office 2000.  It's quite a bit
>>easier this way cuz you can just take your corrupted OS dump the image
>>on it placing you back before the patch was installed.  Windows Update
>>unfortunately loads a whole lotta stuff that more often than not breaks
>>your stable OS.
>>
>>
>>
>>>>>Mozilla Thunderbird <<
>>>
>>>
>>>You're one of quite a number of people that have said that OE and Outlook
>>>are to be avoided. Thanks for the input.
>>
>>
>>I was a DIE hard OE user until very recently... I have never liked
>>Outlook because it causes system instability and that's when it's
>>working right!... The main reason that I always stuck w/OE was because I
>>liked the integration between it and Hotmail, but have recently been
>>introduced w/ a little program called Hotmail Popper (www.boolean.ca)
>>it's very neat... you can now use ANY email program to access your
>>hotmail account, and it's free.. and works.. so far so good at least..
>>I've been using ThunderMail full time now for almost a week and find
>>that all the features I liked in OE are better in Tbird.  PLUS now I use
>>mailwasher less because Tbird has built in Junk Mail detection... so far
>>no false positives.
>>--
>>-Francisco






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