[dba-Tech] Re: [] AV Software on Servers [was Redemption DLL ]

Drew Wutka dbatech at wolfwares.com
Thu Dec 11 20:09:56 CST 2003


No problem.  I like pushing software that I approve of.  The only software I
don't particulary like, is their eManager for ScanMail, which is the 'spam'
filtering.....but then again, haven't seen a spam filter that really blew my
socks off yet.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Francisco H
Tapia
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 11:55 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Re: [] AV Software on Servers [was Redemption DLL ]


Drew, thanks for pushing Trend.  I've been using Trend Micro since 1997, I
had PcCillin bundeled w/ my Pcchips board.  while the board was crap, the
antivirus software never was, I later bought a product for my former win98
machine called FixIt Utilities, which had a newere copy of TrendMicro
bundled in, I used that software for ages until it became obsolelte.  Now
i'm running TrendMicro PcCillin 2003 on my home PC, and I love it' speed
reliability and stability.  This copy came bundled w/ a firewall, which I
must admit I don't use.  I'm using Sygate Personal Firewall and it's done an
awesome job, no need to stray w/ something that is working efficiently :D


--
-Francisco


Drew Wutka wrote:

>I love everything we use from Trend, with the exception of eManager, which
>is a spam blocking 'add-in' for ScanMail.  Don't get me wrong, it works, as
>well as most of the stuff I've seen out there, but that's the problem.
It's
>not stellar! <grin>
>
>Drew
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
>Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 8:32 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] AV Software on Servers [was Redemption DLL ]
>
>
>Drew,
>Thanks for the info, sounds like a rock solid server app.
>
>jb
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka
>>Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 7:24 PM
>>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>>Subject: RE: [AccessD] AV Software on Servers [was Redemption DLL ]
>>
>>
>>Yes, ScanMail will scan the files within a zip file.  You can even set how
>>deep you want it to scan (for zips within zips).  I think we are set to 5
>>levels.  We have never blocked .zip files, and I certainly don't plan on
>>starting.  We do block any extension that can be run off the bat, such as
>>.exe, .com, .bat, etc.  Those are blocked simply as a buffer, since brand
>>new viruses aren't caught until Trend updates their patterns
>>(which they do
>>pretty fast).  Once a virus is in the pattern though, it will strip it out
>>of zip files.
>>
>>Drew
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
>>Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 10:03 AM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: RE: [AccessD] AV Software on Servers [was Redemption DLL ]
>>
>>
>>That's a shame.
>>
>>I would think that security and productivity should have at least equal
>>priority in the work place :o)
>>
>>For true security to ever happen the email security people are
>>going to have
>>to start identifying what's in a zip file rather than the fact that its a
>>zip file. Most AV scanners can already scan zip contents so I would think
>>that if a message came through with a zip attachment that the zip
>>attachment's contents could be scanned for problems rather than just
>>assuming that its a problem because its a zip. Even if they
>>pulled the email
>>aside and processed it out of stream rather than doing it directly and
>>clogging up the system it would be preferable to just deleting it!
>>
>>Hey Drew can Trend Micro's system do that?
>>
>>Of course if they scan the zip - then .mdbs can't be considered dangerous
>>either. FMS has a free virus scanner for .mdbs I wonder if its worthwhile?
>>If one could write a script to scan .mdbs with FMS AV scanner it could
>>eliminating the whole annoying process of not allowing .mdb
>>attachments. (Of
>>course I always zip my mdbs because they usually compress about 80% so I'm
>>back to the first argument...   now I'm just babbling...
>>:o)
>>
>>What say we get some big company to put a bounty out on the heads of virus
>>writers?
>>;o)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Martin Reid
>>>Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 8:23 AM
>>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] AV Software on Servers [was Redemption DLL ]
>>>
>>>
>>>Thats just how we do it in work. PITA but gets us past the email people.
>>>
>>>Martin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Oh, yes, there always have to have some people that overdo everything,
>>>>beside scanning .mdb how about not allowing .zip extensions in email?!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Then
>>>
>>>
>>>>of course you have people who resort to changing the file extension on
>>>>
>>>>
>>>your
>>>
>>>
>>>>zipped files to .txt and instructing the person on other end to
>>>>
>>>>
>>>change it
>>>
>>>
>>>>back. That's good covenient security.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>MartyConnelly
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 1:39 AM
>>>>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] AV Software on Servers [was Redemption DLL ]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Depends on what file extensions are scanned on a network
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>server. I keep
>>>
>>>
>>>>>a special stick to poke network guys who insist on scanning
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>ldb and mdb
>>>
>>>
>>>>>file types among others. Scanning a 300MB file on-access can bring
>>>>>things to a grinding halt.
>>>>>
>>>>>Stuart McLachlan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 20 Nov 2003 at 20:40, John W. Colby wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Stuart,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I personally don't say it has no place in the world.  The
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>unfortunate
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>reality is that there are millions of machines out there used
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>by individuals
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>in their homes (or small office) who are too ignorant to run
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>virus checkers.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>THESE users should indeed install the service patch so that
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>they only screw
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>up their own machines when the virus hits them.  It simply has
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>no place in a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>business where they should be running AV software.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Which brings us on to another question, prompted recently by a
>>>>>>client.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>What is your option on running anti-virus software on network
>>>>>>servers?
>>>>>>(Assuming that you do run on-access scanning software on the
>>>>>>workstations)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Note:
>>>>>>X-posted to <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>>>>All follow ups to that list only. Please!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Marty Connelly
>>>>>Victoria, B.C.
>>>>>Canada
>>>>>
>>>>>

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