Drew Wutka
dbatech at wolfwares.com
Thu Dec 11 20:09:56 CST 2003
No problem. I like pushing software that I approve of. The only software I don't particulary like, is their eManager for ScanMail, which is the 'spam' filtering.....but then again, haven't seen a spam filter that really blew my socks off yet. Drew -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Francisco H Tapia Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 11:55 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Re: [] AV Software on Servers [was Redemption DLL ] Drew, thanks for pushing Trend. I've been using Trend Micro since 1997, I had PcCillin bundeled w/ my Pcchips board. while the board was crap, the antivirus software never was, I later bought a product for my former win98 machine called FixIt Utilities, which had a newere copy of TrendMicro bundled in, I used that software for ages until it became obsolelte. Now i'm running TrendMicro PcCillin 2003 on my home PC, and I love it' speed reliability and stability. This copy came bundled w/ a firewall, which I must admit I don't use. I'm using Sygate Personal Firewall and it's done an awesome job, no need to stray w/ something that is working efficiently :D -- -Francisco Drew Wutka wrote: >I love everything we use from Trend, with the exception of eManager, which >is a spam blocking 'add-in' for ScanMail. Don't get me wrong, it works, as >well as most of the stuff I've seen out there, but that's the problem. It's >not stellar! <grin> > >Drew > >-----Original Message----- >From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net] >Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 8:32 PM >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >Subject: RE: [AccessD] AV Software on Servers [was Redemption DLL ] > > >Drew, >Thanks for the info, sounds like a rock solid server app. > >jb > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka >>Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 7:24 PM >>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >>Subject: RE: [AccessD] AV Software on Servers [was Redemption DLL ] >> >> >>Yes, ScanMail will scan the files within a zip file. You can even set how >>deep you want it to scan (for zips within zips). I think we are set to 5 >>levels. We have never blocked .zip files, and I certainly don't plan on >>starting. We do block any extension that can be run off the bat, such as >>.exe, .com, .bat, etc. Those are blocked simply as a buffer, since brand >>new viruses aren't caught until Trend updates their patterns >>(which they do >>pretty fast). Once a virus is in the pattern though, it will strip it out >>of zip files. >> >>Drew >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net] >>Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 10:03 AM >>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >>Subject: RE: [AccessD] AV Software on Servers [was Redemption DLL ] >> >> >>That's a shame. >> >>I would think that security and productivity should have at least equal >>priority in the work place :o) >> >>For true security to ever happen the email security people are >>going to have >>to start identifying what's in a zip file rather than the fact that its a >>zip file. Most AV scanners can already scan zip contents so I would think >>that if a message came through with a zip attachment that the zip >>attachment's contents could be scanned for problems rather than just >>assuming that its a problem because its a zip. Even if they >>pulled the email >>aside and processed it out of stream rather than doing it directly and >>clogging up the system it would be preferable to just deleting it! >> >>Hey Drew can Trend Micro's system do that? >> >>Of course if they scan the zip - then .mdbs can't be considered dangerous >>either. FMS has a free virus scanner for .mdbs I wonder if its worthwhile? >>If one could write a script to scan .mdbs with FMS AV scanner it could >>eliminating the whole annoying process of not allowing .mdb >>attachments. (Of >>course I always zip my mdbs because they usually compress about 80% so I'm >>back to the first argument... now I'm just babbling... >>:o) >> >>What say we get some big company to put a bounty out on the heads of virus >>writers? >>;o) >> >> >> >> >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Martin Reid >>>Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 8:23 AM >>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] AV Software on Servers [was Redemption DLL ] >>> >>> >>>Thats just how we do it in work. PITA but gets us past the email people. >>> >>>Martin >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Oh, yes, there always have to have some people that overdo everything, >>>>beside scanning .mdb how about not allowing .zip extensions in email?! >>>> >>>> >>>Then >>> >>> >>>>of course you have people who resort to changing the file extension on >>>> >>>> >>>your >>> >>> >>>>zipped files to .txt and instructing the person on other end to >>>> >>>> >>>change it >>> >>> >>>>back. That's good covenient security. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>>>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of >>>>> >>>>> >>>MartyConnelly >>> >>> >>>>>Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 1:39 AM >>>>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >>>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] AV Software on Servers [was Redemption DLL ] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Depends on what file extensions are scanned on a network >>>>> >>>>> >>>server. I keep >>> >>> >>>>>a special stick to poke network guys who insist on scanning >>>>> >>>>> >>>ldb and mdb >>> >>> >>>>>file types among others. Scanning a 300MB file on-access can bring >>>>>things to a grinding halt. >>>>> >>>>>Stuart McLachlan wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>On 20 Nov 2003 at 20:40, John W. Colby wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Stuart, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I personally don't say it has no place in the world. The >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>unfortunate >>> >>> >>>>>>>reality is that there are millions of machines out there used >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>by individuals >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>in their homes (or small office) who are too ignorant to run >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>virus checkers. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>THESE users should indeed install the service patch so that >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>they only screw >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>up their own machines when the virus hits them. It simply has >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>no place in a >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>business where they should be running AV software. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>Which brings us on to another question, prompted recently by a >>>>>>client. >>>>>> >>>>>>What is your option on running anti-virus software on network >>>>>>servers? >>>>>>(Assuming that you do run on-access scanning software on the >>>>>>workstations) >>>>>> >>>>>>Note: >>>>>>X-posted to <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> >>>>>>All follow ups to that list only. Please! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>>Marty Connelly >>>>>Victoria, B.C. >>>>>Canada >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com