Bruce Bruen
bbruen at bigpond.com
Mon Jul 7 19:18:21 CDT 2003
Andy, Last chance method! If it doesn't work the disk will be fried. This has happened to us a couple of times in W2k. It hasn't happened with XP. We take the drive out of the machine and load it in a second drive bay on another machine. You get one chance at looking at the drive and copying all the files you want to save off it. By this I mean that when you reboot the new machine adding the second drive it will either work or it wont - we have had a success rate of 4 out of 6. The other two times the data on drive was rendered useless and the disk had to be reformatted. So if you try this method - good luck! On second thought its probably better that you take the drive to a recovery agency for this one. Hth Bruce -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco H Tapia Sent: Tuesday, 8 July 2003 8:46 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] My W2K problem Andy, I feel for you really I do. Win2K when formatted as NTFS does not have any "dos" underbelly so you won't be able to get at the files, however if you do have another Win2k or NT machine around you can connect via the network and see if that helps. I don't know how to fix that particular problem you are having since I've never experianced it before. In fact non of the Win2k/XP installs I do ever go the upgrade route, mostly because upgrading per se as the old upgrade from dos 5 > 6 went out the door when moving from Win95 to Win98. While it was successful in some cases, many times it left remnents of old sloppy code or file structures. If you are able to log in via the network backup all the data files / favorites and email and restart the install from scratch. Plus if you have Symantec Works or the like, check to see if you have a copy of ghost and use it to backup the drive so you can have a good starting point for if and when there is a next time. -Francisco http://rcm.netfirms.com On Monday, July 07, 2003 3:03 PM [GMT-8], Andy Lacey <andy at minstersystems.co.uk> wrote: : Actually I now don't think it is a password issue. As I said it reacts : to the correct password differently from ny wrong one. It flashes up : 'Loading personal settings' then 'Saving personal settings' and round : to the logon screen again as if I'd logged out. : : It actually takes the password. In fact the symptoms are described : exactly in MS article 249321. : : "After you try to log on to your Windows 2000-based computer by using : a valid user name and password, the Loading your personal settings : dialog box is displayed, followed by the Saving your settings dialog : box. However, the desktop does not appear, and the Welcome to Windows : logon screen is displayed again." : : But how can I resolve this (or even see if it's the issue) when I : can't get into Windows to run Regedit. And booting from a dos disk : doesn't even show me a c: drive (can't you do this with W2k?). : : : : : Andy Lacey : http://www.minstersystems.co.uk : : : :: -----Original Message----- :: From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com :: [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey :: Sent: 07 July 2003 21:59 :: To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' :: Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT W2K Help!!!!!! :: :: :: Thanks for the reply Lambert but my son's a student. Backups :: are an unknown word, Formatting the disk and starting from :: there is a nightmare scenario. I'd happily restart the :: upgrade but can't even get into Windows to do anything, and :: anyway I don't imagine one can "upgrade" when you're already on W2K. :: :: Andy Lacey :: http://www.minstersystems.co.uk :: :: :: ::: -----Original Message----- ::: From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com ::: [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of ::: Heenan, Lambert ::: Sent: 07 July 2003 21:47 ::: To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' ::: Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT W2K Help!!!!!! ::: ::: ::: Were it not for the word "upgrading" in your question I'd say just ::: reinstall W2K again. But it sounds like you were hoping to keep all ::: the settings for all the other programs already installed under W98, : ::: hence the upgrade. ::: ::: If you have a data backup I'd still go ahead and install W2K again, ::: as a completely fresh install - letting the setup progie reformat ::: the C drive - and also set up a D partition for all the data at the ::: same time. Then install all the other software. Once you've ::: succeeded I'd suggest going into the passwords policy setting and ::: allow unlimited password attempts, and never let a P/W expire (zero ::: days to expiration). Unless there are sound security reasons for ::: doing otherwise. ::: ::: Having the separate partition for programs (C) and data (D) does ::: make life simpler the next time you descried to do a fresh install. ::: ::: All very tedious, but three of four hours should see it completed. ::: :::: -----Original Message----- :::: From: Andy Lacey [SMTP:andy at minstersystems.co.uk] :::: Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 4:03 PM :::: To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' :::: Subject: [AccessD] OT W2K Help!!!!!! :::: :::: Would have posted to the new tech list but not sure how :: many are on :::: that yet and this is a bit desperate. :::: :::: Have just finished upgrading my son's PC from W98SE to W2K ::: so that he :::: can attach the iPod I just bought him. Fairly easy until it booted :::: in W2K for the first time. It asked me for a single password ::: to use for :::: the existing account and for the new administrator account it has :::: created. I used my son's name and it took it fine, except ::: that now I :::: can't log on at all. It kinda knows 'tom' (for so it is) :: is correct :::: because when I enter that it takes it but just comes ::: straight back to :::: ask for it again, whereas anything else I type gets rejected as :::: invalid. But a lot of b****y good that is when I can't get ::: in. Reboot :::: after reboot, still no joy. Caps on, caps off. What on ::: earth can I do? :::: I've scanned the web but software to crack W2K passwords ::: has a price :::: around $2-300!!!! 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