[dba-Tech] Access vs. .NET

Yep, bewilderment is allowed.  The biggest issue in my opinion with .net is
that while 9/10ths of the classes are not end user stuff they still have to
expose them (and document them) since with true inheritance it is possible
that you will need to get at them every once in awhile.  It would be nice if
it were organized such that the end user stuff were all that you saw unless
you "pressed a button" to show the parent objects.  

The other thing is that the organization, the presentation is totally
different from Access.  We simply aren't used to it.  Because in Access
inheritance doesn't exist per se a lot of the things (windows of
information) that are required in .net aren't needed in Access.  It is
absolutely overwhelming when you first get started.

I never actually used punched cards.  I did enter data into a vt100 with a
punched card drawn on the screen were you had to enter the FORTRAN syntax
into specific columns.  YUK!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steven W. Erbach
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:54 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Access vs. .NET


John,

I'm not sure that my programming history is as long or as intense as yours,
but I guess as I get older my ability to absorb new technologies quickly is
hampered. Though, I have to say, that .NET is so much bigger than any other
new thing I've learned, I think I'm allowed a bit of bewilderment, eh?

I came to Access from Paradox for Windows, which I thought was the absolute
coolest application I'd ever seen except for high-end CAD back in '93.
Before that it was Paradox for DOS and dBASE IV, III, and II. I wrote my
first dBASE II app in '82, I'm pretty sure. Dabbled with PL/I at the
technical college in the early 70s and was able to put my nose against the
glass to watch the operators feed my punch cards into an IBM 370. I still
love punch cards.

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI

sweblog1.blogspot.com


> ------------Original Message------------
> From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" 
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Date: Wed, Nov-17-2004 3:36 PM
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Access vs. .NET
> 
> ROTFL.
> 
> I have to believe though that you have forgotten your early days
> learning
> Access, when all the millions of properties and events were so much 
> Greek,
> and you had no idea what an object model was, never mind how to find it 
> or
> how to interpret it.
> 
> I distinctly remember moving from procedural "start at the top (or 
> with Turbo Pascal - the bottom) and start executing" code to Event 
> driven "how can you ever know where the code is going to execute 
> next".  I really got
> into Access "full time" in 1994 and there was no internet.  There was 
> no
> Access Users Group, in fact I was on the BOD of the San Diego Users 
> Group
> sitting in on that first meeting singing "halleluiah" that I would 
> finally
> have someone to talk to about Access.  Once a month users group 
> meetings.
> There were very few books, and the ADH was waaaaay over my head.  
> 
> Yea sure, now that I have spent 10 years learning it, Access is indeed 
> "chocolates on the pillow".
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com


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