[dba-Tech] Desktop recommendation

John W. Colby jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Tue Oct 19 18:30:01 CDT 2004


Which is why I so highly recommend the NVIDIA chipset for the Athlon64.  The
GHz nic AND all of the disks come directly into the chipset, where they have
dedicated hardware and high speed paths directly into the cpu, bypassing the
backplane circuit.  Most others hang these components off the Southbridge
and when all of them start putting out data they just saturate the common
channel.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
jmoss111 at bellsouth.net
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 7:13 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: RE: [dba-Tech] Desktop recommendation


One thing that I haven't heard anyone mention today is using SATA 10,000 RPM
drives. The WD 10,000 RPM drive that I installed in a system really seemed
to make a difference and they aren't that expensive, and most new main
boards already have a SATA controller on board. Computers have been I/O
bound since time immemorial.
> 
> From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> Date: 2004/10/19 Tue PM 03:55:58 EDT
> To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'"
> 	<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Desktop recommendation
> 
> >I found a local shop with a flat rate $75 bench fee for 
> >building/fixing
> PC's.
> 
> That's a steal and well worth doing.  I definitely understand the "no 
> time to do it", on the other hand it just keeps getting simpler and 
> simpler, it really does.  With all the plug and play (less and less 
> pray), installing the hardware is just getting down to nothing.  Plus 
> the new motherboards have everything built in to the MB itself.  I kid 
> you not, the new machines I built have exactly ONE card, that being 
> the video card.  All the disks, sound, USB, etc is all just right on 
> the motherboard.  You pop in the CD with the drivers and load it up 
> and you are done.  Why do you think the systems from Dell are so cheap?
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Porter, 
> Mark
> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 2:03 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Desktop recommendation
> 
> 
> I also purchase/build my own stuff, very economical.
> 
> However, I rarely have time to build anymore (I'd rather be kayaking).  
> I found a local shop with a flat rate $75 bench fee for 
> building/fixing PC's. I give them the parts and they do a great job, 
> saving me time and sometimes a headache.
> 
> Mark
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. 
> > Colby
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 9:04 AM
> > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Desktop recommendation
> > 
> > 
> > ROTFL.  There's a guy with too much money!
> > 
> > ;-)
> > 
> > It's really easy to get cheap prebuilt systems, but high performing, 
> > cheap prebuilt systems are another matter.  In fact Dell and the
> > others get you in
> > and browsing with the cheap machines, then seriously jack up 
> > the price when
> > you start upgrading the cheap components to better performing ones.
> > 
> > Joe was discussing buying an Emachines which is a fairly strong 
> > indication that he is not in your (apparent) income bracket.  And an
> > Emachines is not
> > going to impress many clients unless they happen to be impressed by
> > frugality.
> > 
> > And the case is NOT ugly.  8-(
> > 
> > For those of us not so wealthy, building systems is DEAD easy.  In 
> > the US the parts are extremely cheap, and you can put together
> > machines that you
> > can't touch for twice the price the price.  I replaced my 
> > wife's 1ghz amd
> > with 256 of ram (which I built 3 years ago).  I had to replace the
> > motherboard, processor, ram and video card.  I used the rest 
> > of the parts
> > (disks, cd, floppy, monitor, mouse and keyboard and chassis). 
> >  It took me
> > about an hour, plus the time to load the software.  The price 
> > was ~ $300 to
> > go from low functioning to SERIOUSLY fast.  Gigabit LAN NIC, smoking
> > performance, plenty of memory, tons of USB ports, etc.
> > 
> > Do that with your IBM Gustav.
> > 
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> > 
> > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> > http://folding.stanford.edu/
> 
> 
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