[dba-Tech] WXP Connecting Mobiles

Andy Lacey andy at minstersystems.co.uk
Tue Sep 7 01:46:15 CDT 2004


Interesting. I'll try that.

Andy

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka
> Sent: 06 September 2004 22:43
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] WXP Connecting Mobiles
> 
> 
> NT based clients (NT 4.0, W2k pro, XP Pro) all cache a users 
> credentials, so if a user logs on, with their domain account, 
> and the domain is not available, they will be 'logged' in 
> with their cached credentials.  You do not have to be on the 
> domain to log in with your domain account, except, obviously, 
> for their first login for that account (after that, the 
> credentials are cached....)
> 
> Drew
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 3:54 PM
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] WXP Connecting Mobiles
> 
> 
> I'm probably wrong here Drew, but if the only profile on the 
> laptop is their network one then how do they logon when 
> they're away from the network? As I understood it, to connect 
> to the network and have everything operate well, and attract 
> domain security, etc, etc he must logon as a domain user, but 
> logging-on as a domain user will fail when not connected 
> won't it? That's why I thought he'd need a local and a domain 
> profile. From what you're saying you do I suspect I'm wrong 
> (usually am) but I don't see how.
> 
> -- Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Drew Wutka
> > Sent: 06 September 2004 20:14
> > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] WXP Connecting Mobiles
> >
> >
> > I'm assuming the laptops are NT based (4.0, 2k, xp), 
> because you don't 
> > need to setup profiles for 98.
> >
> > In that case, there are two approaches we use at work.  My 
> co-worker, 
> > who is the network Admin, sets up their network account as a power 
> > user on the laptop.  Then he creates a seperate 'Local 
> Admin' account 
> > on the laptop, so if the user needs to install something, they log 
> > off, and log in as the local admin.  My approach is just to 
> setup the 
> > laptop users with their network account in the local admins group.  
> > One login, no fuss.  It is a little risky doing that, but if they
> > have good Anti-virus software, they should be protected.  It
> > doesn't matter if they are connected to the network or not,
> > the laptops will let them log in with cached credentials (NT
> > based machines will remember so many cached accounts, I think
> > the default is three, so as long as they don't log with three
> > different accounts, it will remember their network account 
> 'forever').
> >
> > Drew
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of 
> Andy Lacey
> > Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 8:40 AM
> > To: Dba Tech
> > Subject: [dba-Tech] WXP Connecting Mobiles
> >
> >
> > Hope someone can advise.
> >
> > I seem to be getting involved more and more with 
> Windows/Network admin 
> > tasks, in which I have very little experience. But when your client 
> > asks, you try to do, right? Anyway, don't answer that. The 
> point is I 
> > think I'm going to have a few questions which will no doubt 
> be trivial 
> > to some of you, so I hope someone can help.
> >
> > Here's one. We have an NT4 network, and a mix of W98, W2K and WXP 
> > workstations. We have a single domain. What is standard 
> practice for 
> > setting up a laptop (often physically here, often not, connects to 
> > network if here but not otherwise)? Do I create a local 
> profile AND a 
> > domain profile on that machine? Is that normal? I think he 
> has to have 
> > a domain profile when connected to the network so we can do normal
> > management-type things (update AV defs), but is there another
> > way round this that doesn't require two profiles, and doesn't
> > require the user to remember which to use when?
> >
> >
> > --
> > Andy Lacey
> > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> >
> >
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