Francisco Tapia
fhtapia at gmail.com
Wed Sep 29 12:08:57 CDT 2004
On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 08:43:41 -0500, John Bartow <john at winhaven.net> wrote: > You can set NIS to specifically block or allow URLs via the Firewall and via > the intrusion detection components in addition to the Parental Control. That > would probably be my biggest gripe about NIS. They have a "configure" dialog > for each of these items and then an "options" dialog for each of these > items. They should be combined. > > Have you tried to manually configure the firewall's permissions for the > browser? Or you could go into the firewall configuration and remove the > browser from the list and then let it prompt you for settings when you try > to access the web. Yes I did try to invoke "Permit All" from the Firewall configuration, under the Programs Tab, I found IE and FireFox, I set both of them from Automatic to Permit All, while the Firewall was invoked, there was NO internet access. I disabled the NIS firewall and I had my internet back, I installed Sygate Personal Firewall, reboot, and resumed using the pc, this time I was able to get to the internet w/ either IE or FireFox depending on their Allow/Block stataus. so to me NIS was a hassle... IF the program has been given "PERMIT ALL" status for communication, I understand that to mean that the program has FULL permissions to access the INTERNET. what part of that am I confusing? > The other thing you might want to check is if there are other firewalls, AV, > etc on the PC. I have found numerous brands on some of home PCs I've worked > on. I guess when some people don't know what to do they just do everything! > Removing these usually cleared up the vast majority of their problems. (I > still think these companies screw with each other's applications-ala > Netscape/IE in the 90s.) > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Francisco > Tapia > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 6:01 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Child's play > > Well here are more details.. > > the PC is a Windows XP and is running NIS 2004. > When the firewall is on, many of the programs in the "configure > firewall" are set to *automatic* settings. and while I can PING from > the command prompt, I cannot resolve the url of www.msn.com, the > parental control is currently off. I can however navigate to the IP > version of www.msn.com (I do not have the IP handy). > > On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 17:06:29 -0500, John Bartow <john at winhaven.net> wrote: > > Francisco, > > On the first point - I've installed (and support) dozens of NIS > > installations and have never had an issue like you describe. Of course I > run > > it on one of PCs so i know it in and out pretty well. I would like more > > details :o) > > > > On the second point you are absolutely correct. Most content filters are > for > > the most part a "reactive" type of filter. Of course Norton liveupdate > > handles updating urls to block as welll as well as AV updates, but it is > > still mostly reactive in nature and will never be perfect. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Francisco > > Tapia > > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 4:31 PM > > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Child's play > > > > FROM personal experiance... NIS has some wierd side-effects, A user > > brought her pc to me when she somehow locked her self out of the > > internet.... as long as the firewall was up it would not talk to the > > DSL or through the router... but when I turned it off it would > > function like normal. I even tried setting it to allow IE or FireFox > > all the way through w/ full permissions and it did not function > > correctly. > > > > 2ndly... all Content Filtering Software falls short at some point or > > another... all the obvious bases are covered... but you will get some > > content that makes it through it's filter because it can only Filter > > sooo much. > > > > On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 22:03:42 +0100, Andy Lacey > > <andy at minstersystems.co.uk> wrote: > > > Yea I wondered about NIS. Used NAV for ever but never NIS so not seen > the > > > parental controls. Sounds the right sort of thing. Thanks John. > > > > > > -- Andy Lacey > > > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > > > > John Bartow > > > > Sent: 28 September 2004 21:34 > > > > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > > > > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Child's play > > > > > > > > > > > > Andy, > > > > I generally install Norton Internet Security for people that > > > > ask me to work on their home PCs. Its got AV, Firewall, and a > > > > host of other goodies and is easy on the end user. If they > > > > already have NIS on their PC they can turn on the "Parental > > > > Controls". If they Norton AV they can get a good price on an > > > > upgrade. Sometimes Norton offers competitive upgrade prices > > > > too. Parental Controls can be set to allow/disallow content > > > > according to general age and then tweaked in a manner you wish. > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Andy Lacey > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 2:51 PM > > > > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > > > > Subject: [dba-Tech] Child's play > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi folks > > > > > > > > A colleague found her 9 year-old daughter Googling a rude > > > > word the other day. Not such a prob but it got her thinking > > > > about protecting her child from accessing porn sites, getting > > > > rude popups and so on. And then there are chatrooms. God, a > > > > whole nasty world of stuff that I never worried about cos the > > > > PC in our house is very public and anyway mine were much > > > > older by the time they came to use it. Anyway, does anyone > > > > with kids have any products (preferably free or dead cheap) > > > > they can recommend for this kind of issue. > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > -- Andy Lacey > > > > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > -- > > -Francisco > > http://ft316db.VOTEorNOT.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > -- > -Francisco > http://ft316db.VOTEorNOT.org > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- -Francisco http://ft316db.VOTEorNOT.org