[dba-Tech] security (was: Child's play)

a good hardware firewall will keep any other kind of connection out,
but it won't prevent software from calling home, that's what software
firewalls do.  I prefer Sygate to ZoneAlarm tho.


On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 11:48:41 -0500, Drew Wutka <dbatech at wolfwares.com> wrote:
> I wouldn't run Zone Alarm on top of a router firewall.  That's just silly.
> 
> Drew
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John Bartow
> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 9:43 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] security (was: Child's play)
> 
> You are correct in your assumptions! Like I said, I've never had this issue
> happen to me. Doesn't mean it can't happen!
> :o)
> 
> At this point I would have uninstalled the entire suite. cleaned the PC and
> reinstalled it. The most problematic NIS installation I worked on (nothing
> compared to your example) was one where the owner installed it.
> 
> On this subject I just got off the phone with a small business client who
> recently moved his office complex from Cable access to DSL (cost wise was
> much better). He has been having problems with just about everything since
> then. He just called and asked me to come and straighten it out for him. He
> had called the DSL company support this morning and had a tech tell him that
> they couldn't help him while he was running a firewall and anti-virus
> program AND that these things were totally unnecessary with their internet
> access because of their security. He said the tech claimed that the router
> was all the protection he needed.
> 
> Anyone else heard this kind of advice lately?!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Francisco
> Tapia
> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 12:09 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Child's play
> 
> Yes I did try to invoke "Permit All" from the Firewall configuration,
> under the Programs Tab, I found IE and FireFox, I set both of them
> from Automatic to Permit All, while the Firewall was invoked, there
> was NO internet access.  I disabled the NIS firewall and I had my
> internet back, I installed Sygate Personal Firewall, reboot, and
> resumed using the pc, this time I was able to get to the internet w/
> either IE or FireFox depending on their Allow/Block stataus.
> 
> so to me NIS was a hassle... IF the program has been given "PERMIT
> ALL" status for communication, I understand that to mean that the
> program has FULL permissions to access the INTERNET.
> 
> what part of that am I confusing?
> 
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