[dba-Tech] security (was: Child's play)

I wouldn't run Zone Alarm on top of a router firewall.  That's just silly.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 9:43 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] security (was: Child's play)


You are correct in your assumptions! Like I said, I've never had this issue
happen to me. Doesn't mean it can't happen!
:o)

At this point I would have uninstalled the entire suite. cleaned the PC and
reinstalled it. The most problematic NIS installation I worked on (nothing
compared to your example) was one where the owner installed it.


On this subject I just got off the phone with a small business client who
recently moved his office complex from Cable access to DSL (cost wise was
much better). He has been having problems with just about everything since
then. He just called and asked me to come and straighten it out for him. He
had called the DSL company support this morning and had a tech tell him that
they couldn't help him while he was running a firewall and anti-virus
program AND that these things were totally unnecessary with their internet
access because of their security. He said the tech claimed that the router
was all the protection he needed.

Anyone else heard this kind of advice lately?!


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Francisco
Tapia
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 12:09 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Child's play

Yes I did try to invoke "Permit All" from the Firewall configuration,
under the Programs Tab, I found IE and FireFox, I set both of them
from Automatic to Permit All, while the Firewall was invoked, there
was NO internet access.  I disabled the NIS firewall and I had my
internet back, I installed Sygate Personal Firewall, reboot, and
resumed using the pc, this time I was able to get to the internet w/
either IE or FireFox depending on their Allow/Block stataus.

so to me NIS was a hassle... IF the program has been given "PERMIT
ALL" status for communication, I understand that to mean that the
program has FULL permissions to access the INTERNET.

what part of that am I confusing?


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