[dba-Tech] C++ to vb.net conversion

John W. Colby jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Wed Feb 23 19:18:10 CST 2005


Exactly how do you "flesh out" a diagram of hundreds of databases?

John W. Colby
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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 7:05 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] C++ to vb.net conversion


UML. I had a funny a couple of months ago, when I got called into a 
company to check their records rentention periods
for corporate compliance. I asked for a simple diagram of database 
links. This was a large company and had a couple
of hundred databases spread around the country. Nobody had one. Don't 
you guys use UML or data models
No that is passe, I was told. Each DBA seemed to run his own fiefdom. I 
finally got one of the older hands to sketch me out a map on the backs 
of beer coasters.
Transfered that to Visio then to System Architect. About a week later 
the CIO got a copy of my basic diagrams
and demanded a fully fleshed out one, he had been looking for one for a 
couple of years.


Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote:

>>Developers know that no technology will take them
>>to the promised land that has been promised many times
>>    
>>
>Steve,
>
>I believe the sentence above will become false in another 50-100 years 
>:)
>
>Not in my lifetime probably :(
>
>OOP&D, software design patterns, UML and UML-based software design & 
>development methodologies and practices, agile and extreme programming, 
>managed code (like C# & VB.NET, managed C++),  effective risk, team & 
>project management... - all these are promising, really useful and 
>therefore solid foundation to get the road to the promised land built 
>somewhere in not that far from today future....
>
>Shamil
>--
>Web: http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Steve Erbach" <erbachs at gmail.com>
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
><dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 4:02 PM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] C++ to vb.net conversion
>
>
>  
>
>>Shamil,
>>
>>I visited your home page and was struck by the quote there. It 
>>reminded me of something I'd seen in InfoWorld a few years ago written 
>>by a former programmer:
>>
>>"If art is making order out of chaos, then software developers are 
>>artists at the highest level. Sure, you will hear about advances that 
>>promise to make the life of the software developer easier -- 
>>object-oriented programming, integrated development environments, and 
>>now Web services -- but walk into any development shop and the 
>>developers stare intently into their monitors, facing conundrum after 
>>conundrum, but still fighting the machine and bending it to their 
>>will. Developers know that no technology will take them to the 
>>promised land that has been promised many times, but faith in his or 
>>her ability to conquer the machine drives the sometimes Sisyphean 
>>task."
>>
>>I'm sorry, I don't have the name of the programmer.
>>
>>Steve Erbach
>>Neenah, WI
>>USA
>>
>>On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:08:00 +0300, Shamil Salakhetdinov 
>><shamil at users.mns.ru> wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>>Unfortunately in HANGS ON my VS.NET 2003 IDE.
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>It was one of the Add-ins I did download and install, which was 
>>>hanging VS.NET 2003. It works OK now after I removed this add-in...
>>>
>>>So, I think this wrapper is useful...
>>>
>>>Shamil
>>>--
>>>Web: http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s
>>>
>>>      
>>>
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Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada


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