John W. Colby
jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Wed Feb 23 19:18:10 CST 2005
Exactly how do you "flesh out" a diagram of hundreds of databases? John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: http://folding.stanford.edu/ -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 7:05 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] C++ to vb.net conversion UML. I had a funny a couple of months ago, when I got called into a company to check their records rentention periods for corporate compliance. I asked for a simple diagram of database links. This was a large company and had a couple of hundred databases spread around the country. Nobody had one. Don't you guys use UML or data models No that is passe, I was told. Each DBA seemed to run his own fiefdom. I finally got one of the older hands to sketch me out a map on the backs of beer coasters. Transfered that to Visio then to System Architect. About a week later the CIO got a copy of my basic diagrams and demanded a fully fleshed out one, he had been looking for one for a couple of years. Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote: >>Developers know that no technology will take them >>to the promised land that has been promised many times >> >> >Steve, > >I believe the sentence above will become false in another 50-100 years >:) > >Not in my lifetime probably :( > >OOP&D, software design patterns, UML and UML-based software design & >development methodologies and practices, agile and extreme programming, >managed code (like C# & VB.NET, managed C++), effective risk, team & >project management... - all these are promising, really useful and >therefore solid foundation to get the road to the promised land built >somewhere in not that far from today future.... > >Shamil >-- >Web: http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Steve Erbach" <erbachs at gmail.com> >To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" ><dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> >Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 4:02 PM >Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] C++ to vb.net conversion > > > > >>Shamil, >> >>I visited your home page and was struck by the quote there. It >>reminded me of something I'd seen in InfoWorld a few years ago written >>by a former programmer: >> >>"If art is making order out of chaos, then software developers are >>artists at the highest level. Sure, you will hear about advances that >>promise to make the life of the software developer easier -- >>object-oriented programming, integrated development environments, and >>now Web services -- but walk into any development shop and the >>developers stare intently into their monitors, facing conundrum after >>conundrum, but still fighting the machine and bending it to their >>will. Developers know that no technology will take them to the >>promised land that has been promised many times, but faith in his or >>her ability to conquer the machine drives the sometimes Sisyphean >>task." >> >>I'm sorry, I don't have the name of the programmer. >> >>Steve Erbach >>Neenah, WI >>USA >> >>On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:08:00 +0300, Shamil Salakhetdinov >><shamil at users.mns.ru> wrote: >> >> >>>>Unfortunately in HANGS ON my VS.NET 2003 IDE. >>>> >>>> >>>It was one of the Add-ins I did download and install, which was >>>hanging VS.NET 2003. It works OK now after I removed this add-in... >>> >>>So, I think this wrapper is useful... >>> >>>Shamil >>>-- >>>Web: http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s >>> >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>dba-Tech mailing list >>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- Marty Connelly Victoria, B.C. Canada _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com