[dba-Tech] C++ to vb.net conversion

Marty,

I meant mainly UML used for OOP real-life projects design & development not
just UML for database model diagramming - the latter is rather trivial these
days, the first is still state-of-the-art. But the first was investigated a
lot during last ten+ years and there are very useful results IMO.  I did
recently get through "Applying UML and Patterns" by Craig Larman - it shows
that UML is a practical not an academic tool and that when combined with
Software Design Patterns then it becomes even more powerful and more
practical tool...

Shamil

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
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Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] C++ to vb.net conversion


> UML. I had a funny a couple of months ago, when I got called into a
> company to check their records rentention periods
> for corporate compliance. I asked for a simple diagram of database
> links. This was a large company and had a couple
> of hundred databases spread around the country. Nobody had one. Don't
> you guys use UML or data models
> No that is passe, I was told. Each DBA seemed to run his own fiefdom. I
> finally got one of the older hands to sketch me out a map on the backs
> of beer coasters.
> Transfered that to Visio then to System Architect. About a week later
> the CIO got a copy of my basic diagrams
> and demanded a fully fleshed out one, he had been looking for one for a
> couple of years.
>
>
> Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote:
>
> >>Developers know that no technology will take them
> >>to the promised land that has been promised many times
> >>
> >>
> >Steve,
> >
> >I believe the sentence above will become false in another 50-100 years :)
> >
> >Not in my lifetime probably :(
> >
> >OOP&D, software design patterns, UML and UML-based software design &
> >development methodologies and practices, agile and extreme programming,
> >managed code (like C# & VB.NET, managed C++),  effective risk, team &
> >project management... - all these are promising, really useful and
therefore
> >solid foundation to get the road to the promised land built somewhere in
not
> >that far from today future....
> >
> >Shamil
> >--
> >Web: http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: "Steve Erbach" <erbachs at gmail.com>
> >To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
> ><dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 4:02 PM
> >Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] C++ to vb.net conversion
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Shamil,
> >>
> >>I visited your home page and was struck by the quote there. It
> >>reminded me of something I'd seen in InfoWorld a few years ago written
> >>by a former programmer:
> >>
> >>"If art is making order out of chaos, then software developers are
artists
> >>at the highest level. Sure, you will hear about advances that promise to
> >>make the life of the software developer easier -- object-oriented
> >>programming, integrated development environments, and now Web
services --
> >>but walk into any development shop and the developers stare intently
into
> >>their monitors, facing conundrum after conundrum, but still fighting the
> >>machine and bending it to their will. Developers know that no technology
> >>will take them to the promised land that has been promised many times,
but
> >>faith in his or her ability to conquer the machine drives the sometimes
> >>Sisyphean task."
> >>
> >>I'm sorry, I don't have the name of the programmer.
> >>
> >>Steve Erbach
> >>Neenah, WI
> >>USA
> >>
> >>On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:08:00 +0300, Shamil Salakhetdinov
> >><shamil at users.mns.ru> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>>Unfortunately in HANGS ON my VS.NET 2003 IDE.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>It was one of the Add-ins I did download and install, which was hanging
> >>>VS.NET 2003.
> >>>It works OK now after I removed this add-in...
> >>>
> >>>So, I think this wrapper is useful...
> >>>
> >>>Shamil
> >>>--
> >>>Web: http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> -- 
> Marty Connelly
> Victoria, B.C.
> Canada
>
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