Mitsules, Mark
Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com
Mon Jan 3 15:05:55 CST 2005
Well...since the PCI bus is limited to ~127MB/sec you would still incur the bottleneck. Even at SATA2's limit of 300MB/sec, you can only transfer the hard drive's cache...IIRC the current drives can't even saturate the current PATA/133 bandwidth. On the other hand, I believe the upcoming PCI Express 2.0 is slated to have 5GB/sec. Now that would be nice...incorporating huge amounts of removable/upgradeable flash RAM storage onto that bus...whoohoo! Mark -----Original Message----- From: jmoss111 at bellsouth.net [mailto:jmoss111 at bellsouth.net] Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 3:09 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: RE: RE: [dba-Tech] Software Firewalls What I'm waiting on is a good inexpensive cache controller with about 512mb on it > > From: "Mitsules, Mark" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com> > Date: 2005/01/03 Mon PM 02:21:12 EST > To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > Subject: RE: RE: [dba-Tech] Software Firewalls > > No...72K. > :( > :( > :( > :( > > ...but it makes you wonder why Western Digital doesn't bump up their > cache...because I'm just guessing that it would be easier for Western > Digital to add more RAM to their existing cache (8MB) than it would be for > Maxtor to increase their drive speed from 72K to 10K. > > Mark > > > -----Original Message----- > From: jmoss111 at bellsouth.net [mailto:jmoss111 at bellsouth.net] > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 2:09 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: RE: RE: [dba-Tech] Software Firewalls > > > Is the Maxtor 10,000 RPM and have 16m cache? > > > > From: "Mitsules, Mark" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com> > > Date: 2005/01/03 Mon PM 01:38:46 EST > > To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" > > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > > Subject: RE: RE: [dba-Tech] Software Firewalls > > > > SATA does give a "theoretical" boost in two ways. First is the current > > SATA/150 spec vs. the P-ATA/133 spec. Second is the dedicated channel vs. > a > > possible conflict with a second IDE device in the typical master/slave > > setup. > > > > But, having noticed a considerable improvement in performance when I moved > > to a drive with a 8MB cache when they first came out, I can't wait to see > > the performance gains in both my new Raptor (10k rpm) and my new Maxtor > > (16MB cache). > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: jmoss111 at bellsouth.net [mailto:jmoss111 at bellsouth.net] > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 1:25 PM > > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > > Subject: Re: RE: [dba-Tech] Software Firewalls > > > > > > >From what I've read and tests that I've seen, SATA in itself doesn't > really > > give a performance improvement. The improvement in SATA come from the > 10,000 > > RPM drives used currently only on the WD Raptors (37Gb and 74 Gb) AFAIK. > > SATA 2 may be a different story, but I haven't seen any SATA2 drives on > the > > market or SATA2 tests yet. > > > > > > From: "John Bartow" <john at winhaven.net> > > > Date: 2005/01/03 Mon PM 01:02:30 EST > > > To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" > > > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > > > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Software Firewalls > > > > > > Francisco, > > > Here's the specs for business workstations I've been having my clients > buy > > > lately. I have them assembled, setup and tested at a local shop. They > > really > > > put my P4 2.4Ghz, 512MB RAM, SCSI system to shame. I think the SATA > drives > > > make a big difference. I had been spec'ing 80GB SATA's but the 120 are > > only > > > $10 more so I've been going with that for awhile now. > > > > > > XP pro > > > ASUS K8 MainBoard > > > Athlon64 3200 CPU > > > 450 Watt PS > > > 512MB RAM > > > 80-120 GB Western Digital SATA HD > > > Radeon 9600, 128MB AGP Video > > > CD/DVD read/write > > > 3.5" diskette drive > > > 10/100MB Ethernet > > > 2/4 USB ports > > > 1 Firewire port > > > 17" Samsung 793 monitor > > > > > > Note: The UPSs for these systems is a bit more costly because of the > power > > > needs but I believe down the road it will have been worth it for them. > In > > > the bigger shops they don't all get the RW drives cause they don't need > > 'em. > > > The video card is overkill for most people but at the cost I'm getting > > them > > > it just doesn't matter. For higher needs stations I bulk up the RAM. > > > > > > John B. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco > > Tapia > > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 10:36 AM > > > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Software Firewalls > > > > > > I keep my system free of spyware and viruses, but I haven't done a > > complete > > > re-install in about 3 years, now this holiday season I moved OSs up to > XP > > > sp2, I was surprised on how fast it runs on my hardware (an ol' amd2000 > > XP). > > > so far I have no complaints. > > > > > > some of the things I'm looking forward to in a new rig will be > > > > > > AMD64 (possibly opteron to be exact, i'd love to bite into the > > > multiprocessor market :)) SATA drives, and of course USB2 cuz I'm still > > > running 1.1 > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 09:38:41 -0500, Mitsules, Mark > <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com> > > > wrote: > > > > Bryan, > > > > > > > > How often do you "clean house"? Since I'm heavily into gaming/video & > > > > > audio codecs/demos/beta drivers/etc. I usually start to think about a > > > > > fresh install at around the 7-10 month mark. At that point I usually > > > > buy a new hard drive and start all over. I keep all my old > > > > drives...just in case;) I upgrade my video card about every 18 > > > > months, my CPU about every 18-24 months, and am averaging a new > > > > complete system about every 4 years. I just finished assembling my > > > > newest rig over the holidays, but since we were out of town for most > > > > of the time, I haven't had a chance to load the OS yet. I must admit > > > > that I went just about all-out this time...it is definitely worthy of > > > > boutique status. If anyone is interested in the gory details, I'll > post > > > the components. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Bryan Carbonnell [mailto:carbonnb at gmail.com] > > > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 9:21 AM > > > > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > > > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Software Firewalls > > > > > > > > On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 08:53:57 -0500, Mitsules, Mark > > > > <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Glad to see it worked out Bryan...but I must admit I hate the > > > > > thought that my favorite firewall might be vulnerable in some way. > > > > > > > > I don't think it's vulnerable. I think it's my box. I've been thinking > > > > > that it needs to be cleaned up extensively (Like a reformat and > > > > reinstall) and this is just another confirmation of what I've been > > > > thinking. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com > > > > Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well > > > > preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, > > > > shouting "What a great ride!" > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > -Francisco > > > http://pcthis.blogspot.com | PC news with out the jargon! > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com