John Bartow
john at winhaven.net
Thu May 5 20:45:51 CDT 2005
Isn't that part of MS's court argument that IE is integral with Windows? ;o) Yes, it is normal. You have to do some serious hacking to get rid of IE. I believe if you do you are somewhat limited in much of your capabilities due to a whole slew of program relying on it being there. I kind of gave up following that whole line of thought during the big debate because I deal with too many small clients to ever think that I could actually replace IE in any great amount. I think I have one client using Firefox and that's mostly because of his college intern. You know, there was one other odd behavior I noticed. Yesterday I thought, well, maybe IE is infected somehow. I couldn't find a way to un-install it from the list of installed software. So I thought I'd try renaming the EXE file. I did so; but a few seconds later the program re-appeared in the program folder before my very eyes. It's dated sometime in August of last year. I deleted the new copy of IE...but a few seconds later, there it reappeared again. Is that normal? Thanks, John. Steve Erbach On 5/5/05, John Bartow <john at winhaven.net> wrote: > Steve, > Sounds like you've run the gamut! In really bad cases (I've got two > sitting here now) I run multiple Spyware detectors (after the initial > Trend-Micro, > MS-AS) and then manually remove the detections (if the free version > won't do it). Panda, CA, X-Cleaner, Norton, F-Secure, Ad-Aware, Spybot > S&D, Webroot, CheckPoint(Zone Alarm), Aluria. Can all be run one at a > time (or many at the > same) so I just do that while I'm working on other things. > > Have you booted into safe mode and tried resetting the windows update > settings as the administrator account? Also try the repair feature of IE. > Turn off the software firewall and set the IE settings back to the defaults. > (I'm assuming you're behind a router/HW firewall.) Try running the > updates after that. Also try a registry optimizer on it if you have > one. Systemworks or Vcom, etc. or try > http://www.pcpitstop.com/pcpitstop/default.asp if you don't. > > You could also download the updates from another PC using the Windows > Update Catalog. I used to make CDs of all the updates once a month or > so and then use the CD with dial-up customers. It was kind of putsy > but better than waiting for dialup downloads (Thankfully most of my > customers have DSL now!) > > Another possible issue - NAV 2005 has some major quirks about it. Up > until > 2004 it was my top recommendation for home users (or NIS) but I have > run into many issues with it and unfortunately Symantec's answer > always seems to come down to "uninstall all Symantec software and > re-install". I would suggest uninstalling it. I suggest, if its OK > with your friend, that you try AVG or another free for personal use > AV. For home users I now recommend AVG/Sygate personal firewall and > MS-AS (which I don't care for but hey, its free and it works pretty good). > > Anyway, there's my 2 scents... > > John B. > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com