MartyConnelly
martyconnelly at shaw.ca
Tue Nov 8 11:11:19 CST 2005
When you look at a directory in thumbnail view, it creates an ADS file thumbs.db in the directory. I believe it contains a quick path to the icons. This is hidden. If you zip the directory it will include it. This can occassionally become corrupted but more often it will remain open and not allow you to delete the directory untill you reboot. Using zip files with thumbs.db from different machines might cause problems. A reboot will (should) clear all these open ADS files. Most of the Anti Virus programs have an option to check these files only. Tina Norris Fields wrote: >Gary, > >The weirdness in thumbnails view is probably the clue - that those image >files show only as icons rather than thumbnails - and you mentioned that >in the details view, the ordinary properties and attributes did not >display for the strange files the way they do for the regular files. > Clearly, either something is still going on with those files, some >process is still holding onto them - or maybe the thumbnail database >file is, indeed, corrupted. When my camera determines that the photo I >am snapping horizontally needs to be snapped vertically (not when I >decide to take a vertical shot), certainly, it does something different >to the picture. Probably, your Canon does, too. Whatever that process >is may alter the format in mystical ways that could be overcome by doing >an individual export or save of such a photo at the time you bring it >into the computer. That may wipe out the weirdness and give you an >ordinary image file that you can copy with all the others. > >Tina > > > >Gary Kjos wrote: > > > >>Hi Erwin. >> >>I find it bizare too. That's why I thought I would share it with the world ;-) >> >>Nothing really crashes. I can see the files in the folder via Explorer >>- in details view they show filenames and dates and the basic things >>but will not display additional things like attributes and owners >>while the horizontal images in the same folder do for the remote >>system. On the hosting system all the file attributes and other >>properties look to be exactly the same. In thumbnails view the >>vertical photo files show as icons rather than thumbnails while the >>horizontal ones show fine. If I try and double click on one of the >>icons or copy the file I get the message "Access is Denied". Happens >>the same with only one file. >> >>I ran Spybot, Ad-Aware and Pest Patrol on the host system and they >>only found some cookies to remove, so I don't think there is any >>malicious code causing the problem although I am still wondering if >>the Canon Camera software that I installed to interface with my newest >>camera installed something that would be causing the problem. Canon >>doesn't have a very good knowledge base that I could find to research >>issues like this. I''m thinking that perhaps looking around on one of >>the photography sites, like DPReview.com or maybe Paintshop Pro's >>support site might give me some insight into the problem. >> >>I have just copied the entire set of pictures folders from my backup >>external USB drive to the laptop, so I have worked around the problem >>for now but it will happen again the next time I need to copy photos. >>I was able to copy all the files from teh backup drive to the laptop >>with no problem whatsoever, so there is nothing about the files >>themselves that is a problem for the laptop, just that the host system >>doesn't want to let them be seen by anyone but itself. >> >>Thanks for your thoughts. I will figure it out eventually and will >>post the results then. >> >>Gary >> >>On 9/27/05, Erwin Craps - IT Helps <Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be> wrote: >> >> >> >> >>>I find very bizare and have difficults to believe it has something to do >>>with the orientation of your pictures. >>> >>> >>>I would advice you to first doe a scan disk on both systems for the >>>disks in question (source and destination). >>>If explorer crashes over network it has probably more to do with errors >>>on the disk or even network problem. >>> >>>Secondly, if it really has something to do with orientation of the >>>picture, turn of image preview of the destination folder and subfolders. >>>Set view in details. >>>This will avoid Explorer to analyze your picture and create a thumbnail >>>when copying those files. >>>If you still get crashes it is imposible due to orientation because >>>explore does not analyze the picture anymore. I must be disk error or >>>network error. >>>Try only copying the files in question and not all files at once. >>> >>> >>>Erwin >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>>[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos >>>Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 10:22 PM >>>To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >>>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] File Sharing Problem >>> >>>Hi Ron, >>> >>>No, I don't think so anyway, the share was set for the entire My >>>Documents folder - including all it's sub-folders. Below that is the My >>>Pictures folder and below that I have various sub folders. The one that >>>seems to be the one most noticed because it has my most recent photos in >>>it is in a Canon sub folder with sub-folders below that named for the >>>date the photos were taken. The Canon Upload Wizard adds the date named >>>folder and puts the picture files into it during a dialog that comes up >>>when the camera is connected via USB cable. >>>Nothing I am doing has done anything differently for the photos that can >>>be copied verses the ones that cannot. I just had a few pictures in a >>>few folders that caused this error and when i looked into them, I >>>noticed that every one I had a problem with was a vertical verses a >>>horizontal picture. At least 90% of my pictures seem to be horizontal so >>>it only happens in some folders. >>> >>>I'm thinking that perhaps there is some Canon program that is doing >>>something with the vertical shots to make them so they appear rotated >>>correctly for Windows and that is somehow opening the files in a manner >>>that will not allow them to be shared from outside the system? >>>I guess I should have a look at the Canon camera site and see if they >>>have any leads for me. >>> >>> >>>On 9/26/05, chizotz at mchsi.com <chizotz at mchsi.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Gary, >>>> >>>>The permissions can be set at the file level. Is it possible that file >>>>has had the permissions set differently than the rest of the files in >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>the folder? >>> >>> >>> >>>>Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, but that seems the most likely >>>>scenario to me... I just don't see it having anything to do with the >>>>orientation of the image, it's a permissions issue of some sort. >>>> >>>>Ron >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>I have a file share on the My Documents folder on my desktop system >>>>>that I map a drive to from my laptop. When I try to copy all the >>>>>photos in the My Pictures folder from the desktop to the laptop it >>>>>works until it gets to a verticle picture where the copy dies with a >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>mesage box indicating "Access is Denied". I can view and copy the >>>>>horizontal photos without any problem but if I open the folder on >>>>>the shared drive in explorer a generic icon shows for the verticle >>>>>aspect files. >>>>> >>>>>Anybody have any idea what might be going on??? I'd like to copy >>>>>all the files over to the laptop. I'm thinking that the workaround >>>>>will be to copy to a USB External hard drive on the desktop and then >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>move it to connect to the laptop and copy from external to laptop >>>>>drive. But I would rather not have to do that if I can just slay the >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>dragon that is in my way of doing it directly..... >>>>> >>>>>Any ideas are welcome. >>>>> >>>>>Both systems are Windows XP, up to date with all service packs etc. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- Marty Connelly Victoria, B.C. Canada