Gary Kjos
garykjos at gmail.com
Tue Nov 8 11:22:21 CST 2005
Hi Tina, Thanks for your input. I found that if I copy the images directly from the camera's memory card by using Windows Explorer and just copying them where I want them I don't have any problems sharing them on the other system. But if I transfer them by using the Canon supplied software, I do have the problem. And if I rotate them manually and then resave the rotated file, they are OK too. It's a kludgy workaround, but at least I have a work around. I only take about 10% or so pictures in vertical orientation so its not that huge of a problem I guess. I think there is a problem with the Canon transfer utility program. Perhaps it's really a "feature" and I just don't realize it though <GRIN> GK On 11/8/05, Tina Norris Fields <tinanfields at torchlake.com> wrote: > Gary, > > The weirdness in thumbnails view is probably the clue - that those image > files show only as icons rather than thumbnails - and you mentioned that > in the details view, the ordinary properties and attributes did not > display for the strange files the way they do for the regular files. > Clearly, either something is still going on with those files, some > process is still holding onto them - or maybe the thumbnail database > file is, indeed, corrupted. When my camera determines that the photo I > am snapping horizontally needs to be snapped vertically (not when I > decide to take a vertical shot), certainly, it does something different > to the picture. Probably, your Canon does, too. Whatever that process > is may alter the format in mystical ways that could be overcome by doing > an individual export or save of such a photo at the time you bring it > into the computer. That may wipe out the weirdness and give you an > ordinary image file that you can copy with all the others. > > Tina > > > > Gary Kjos wrote: > > >Hi Erwin. > > > >I find it bizare too. That's why I thought I would share it with the world ;-) > > > >Nothing really crashes. I can see the files in the folder via Explorer > >- in details view they show filenames and dates and the basic things > >but will not display additional things like attributes and owners > >while the horizontal images in the same folder do for the remote > >system. On the hosting system all the file attributes and other > >properties look to be exactly the same. In thumbnails view the > >vertical photo files show as icons rather than thumbnails while the > >horizontal ones show fine. If I try and double click on one of the > >icons or copy the file I get the message "Access is Denied". Happens > >the same with only one file. > > > >I ran Spybot, Ad-Aware and Pest Patrol on the host system and they > >only found some cookies to remove, so I don't think there is any > >malicious code causing the problem although I am still wondering if > >the Canon Camera software that I installed to interface with my newest > >camera installed something that would be causing the problem. Canon > >doesn't have a very good knowledge base that I could find to research > >issues like this. I''m thinking that perhaps looking around on one of > >the photography sites, like DPReview.com or maybe Paintshop Pro's > >support site might give me some insight into the problem. > > > >I have just copied the entire set of pictures folders from my backup > >external USB drive to the laptop, so I have worked around the problem > >for now but it will happen again the next time I need to copy photos. > >I was able to copy all the files from teh backup drive to the laptop > >with no problem whatsoever, so there is nothing about the files > >themselves that is a problem for the laptop, just that the host system > >doesn't want to let them be seen by anyone but itself. > > > >Thanks for your thoughts. I will figure it out eventually and will > >post the results then. > > > >Gary > > > >On 9/27/05, Erwin Craps - IT Helps <Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be> wrote: > > > > > >>I find very bizare and have difficults to believe it has something to do > >>with the orientation of your pictures. > >> > >> > >>I would advice you to first doe a scan disk on both systems for the > >>disks in question (source and destination). > >>If explorer crashes over network it has probably more to do with errors > >>on the disk or even network problem. > >> > >>Secondly, if it really has something to do with orientation of the > >>picture, turn of image preview of the destination folder and subfolders. > >>Set view in details. > >>This will avoid Explorer to analyze your picture and create a thumbnail > >>when copying those files. > >>If you still get crashes it is imposible due to orientation because > >>explore does not analyze the picture anymore. I must be disk error or > >>network error. > >>Try only copying the files in question and not all files at once. > >> > >> > >>Erwin > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > >>[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos > >>Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 10:22 PM > >>To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > >>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] File Sharing Problem > >> > >>Hi Ron, > >> > >>No, I don't think so anyway, the share was set for the entire My > >>Documents folder - including all it's sub-folders. Below that is the My > >>Pictures folder and below that I have various sub folders. The one that > >>seems to be the one most noticed because it has my most recent photos in > >>it is in a Canon sub folder with sub-folders below that named for the > >>date the photos were taken. The Canon Upload Wizard adds the date named > >>folder and puts the picture files into it during a dialog that comes up > >>when the camera is connected via USB cable. > >>Nothing I am doing has done anything differently for the photos that can > >>be copied verses the ones that cannot. I just had a few pictures in a > >>few folders that caused this error and when i looked into them, I > >>noticed that every one I had a problem with was a vertical verses a > >>horizontal picture. At least 90% of my pictures seem to be horizontal so > >>it only happens in some folders. > >> > >>I'm thinking that perhaps there is some Canon program that is doing > >>something with the vertical shots to make them so they appear rotated > >>correctly for Windows and that is somehow opening the files in a manner > >>that will not allow them to be shared from outside the system? > >>I guess I should have a look at the Canon camera site and see if they > >>have any leads for me. > >> > >> > >>On 9/26/05, chizotz at mchsi.com <chizotz at mchsi.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Gary, > >>> > >>>The permissions can be set at the file level. Is it possible that file > >>> > >>> > >>>has had the permissions set differently than the rest of the files in > >>> > >>> > >>the folder? > >> > >> > >>>Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, but that seems the most likely > >>>scenario to me... I just don't see it having anything to do with the > >>>orientation of the image, it's a permissions issue of some sort. > >>> > >>>Ron > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>I have a file share on the My Documents folder on my desktop system > >>>>that I map a drive to from my laptop. When I try to copy all the > >>>>photos in the My Pictures folder from the desktop to the laptop it > >>>>works until it gets to a verticle picture where the copy dies with a > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>mesage box indicating "Access is Denied". I can view and copy the > >>>>horizontal photos without any problem but if I open the folder on > >>>>the shared drive in explorer a generic icon shows for the verticle > >>>>aspect files. > >>>> > >>>>Anybody have any idea what might be going on??? I'd like to copy > >>>>all the files over to the laptop. I'm thinking that the workaround > >>>>will be to copy to a USB External hard drive on the desktop and then > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>move it to connect to the laptop and copy from external to laptop > >>>>drive. But I would rather not have to do that if I can just slay the > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>dragon that is in my way of doing it directly..... > >>>> > >>>>Any ideas are welcome. > >>>> > >>>>Both systems are Windows XP, up to date with all service packs etc. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>_______________________________________________ > >>>dba-Tech mailing list > >>>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > >>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > >>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>-- > >>Gary Kjos > >>garykjos at gmail.com > >>_______________________________________________ > >>dba-Tech mailing list > >>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >>_______________________________________________ > >>dba-Tech mailing list > >>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >-- > >Gary Kjos > >garykjos at gmail.com > >_______________________________________________ > >dba-Tech mailing list > >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com