Bill Patten
bill_patten at embarqmail.com
Wed Dec 17 21:59:31 CST 2008
Thanks for the quick reply. It seems to me I tried it a year or so ago and found it cumbersome. I just downloaded 2.1 and will give it a try tomorrow. USB support gives it a big edge. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VPC - What Do I Do Now? I'm using the the full version under the free "Personal Use and Evalaution" licence". Yes, it supports USB. Each machine uses two files - one for the VM and one for the Virtual Disk. I've also set up an additional Virtual Disk which I can attach to any of the machines as a second disk, as well as shared directory on my underlying OS which I can access from any of the VMs. I'm using Vista32. I'm using version 2.0.6. I see they've just released version 2.1. I'll have to download that later. On 17 Dec 2008 at 19:34, Bill Patten wrote: > Thanks for the reply, Stuart, It would certainly appear the Sun VirtualBox > is much faster. Are you using the free version? does it support USB and > does > it have one file for the virtual machine or many files like VMware? Is > your > Vista Vista 32 or 64? > > Bill > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 7:23 PM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VPC - What Do I Do Now? > > > I always fully "Power off the machine" - still only takes 15 secs or so to > restart. > > Note that this is using Sun VirtualBox. It may just be faster than the > VMWare or Microsoft > equivalents. > > > > On 17 Dec 2008 at 18:36, Bill Patten wrote: > > > I suspect the difference is that I normally shut down the VM when I'm > > done > > and you may close it from the console and "save the state". if I close > > and > > "save the state" it takes about 11 seconds to open. If I am correct > > then > > Rocky might like to know, otherwise he could wind up with real slow > > times > > like I had. > > > > Bill > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> > > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 3:11 PM > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VPC - What Do I Do Now? > > > > > > I'm running Sun VirtualBox on my Vista Business laptop. > > 2.4GB Core 2 Duo, 4GB RAM > > > > It takes about 15 seconds to start up an XP VM loaded with Office 2003 > > or > > 2007. > > > > On 17 Dec 2008 at 10:10, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access wrote: > > > > > ON the Vista machine, which is my kind of 'backup' box, I've got 2007 > > > installed. If I want 2003, I think I have to uninstall 2007 and > > > install > > > them in order. > > > > > > 3 minutes to start up a VM? Hmmm....could be inconvenient. > > > > > > > > > Rocky Smolin > > > Beach Access Software > > > 858-259-4334 > > > www.e-z-mrp.com > > > www.bchacc.com > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill > > > Patten > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 10:04 AM > > > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VPC - What Do I Do Now? > > > > > > Hi Rocky, > > > > > > Yes you have to install an operating system. I have Vista Home, Vista > > > Business, XP and Windows 95 machines setup so I can test software on > > > what > > > my > > > clients may be using. > > > > > > Also I have Access 97, Access 2003 and Access 2007 installed on my > > > main > > > Vista 64 machine, and do not have any problems with Access except > > > waiting > > > for 2007 to re-install after using 2003 (I only work in 2003, just > > > test > > > 2007) and then re-install 2003 after using 2007. > > > > > > Open 2007 after using 2003 install time 81 seconds Open 2003 after > > > using > > > 2007 install time 39 seconds > > > > > > Open XP VM to use Access 2003 about 3 minutes > > > > > > By the way if I have 2003 open and then open 2007 it only takes 49 > > > seconds > > > to install 2007 and both appear to work, though I doubt I'd do that > > > very > > > often but it's nice to know you can. > > > > > > Things do run a little slower on a Virtual Machine too, so for > > > developing > > > I'd use what ever version I needed on my main machine. > > > > > > Having VM's with different operating systems however is very helpful. > > > > > > HTH > > > > > > Bill. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> > > > To: "'Off Topic'" <dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com>; "List" > > > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 9:03 AM > > > Subject: [dba-Tech] VPC - What Do I Do Now? > > > > > > > > > OK. I'm going to do Virtual PC. First I had to upgrade Vista to > > > Ultimate. > > > Then I downloaded and installed VPC. Created a VM called Office 2003 > > > because the Vista box has Office 2007. I want to set up an Office > > > 2003 > > > machine and an Office 200 machine for testing. > > > > > > Started VPC and I get the black screen with Action Edit Floppy Help. > > > And > > > I'm stuck. God knows I don't want to read the manual. I suppose I > > > have > > > to > > > install an OS now. You VM gurus, briefly what do I do next? > > > > > > MTIA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rocky Smolin > > > > > > Beach Access Software > > > > > > 858-259-4334 > > > > > > www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/> > > > > > > www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com