[dba-Tech] VPC - What Do I Do Now?

Stuart McLachlan stuart at lexacorp.com.pg
Wed Dec 17 21:50:55 CST 2008


I'm using the the full version under the free "Personal Use and Evalaution" 
licence".

Yes, it supports USB.

Each machine uses two files - one for the VM and one for the Virtual Disk. 
I've also set up an additional Virtual Disk which I can attach to any of the 
machines as a second disk, as well as shared directory on my underlying 
OS which I can access from any of the VMs.  

I'm using Vista32.

I'm using version 2.0.6.  I see they've just released version 2.1.  I'll have to 
download that later.


On 17 Dec 2008 at 19:34, Bill Patten wrote:

> Thanks for the reply, Stuart, It would certainly appear the Sun VirtualBox 
> is much faster. Are you using the free version? does it support USB and does 
> it have one file for the virtual machine or many files like VMware? Is your 
> Vista Vista 32 or 64?
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" 
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 7:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VPC - What Do I Do Now?
> 
> 
> I always fully "Power off the machine" - still only takes 15 secs or so to 
> restart.
> 
> Note that this is using Sun VirtualBox.  It may just be faster than the 
> VMWare or Microsoft
> equivalents.
> 
> 
> 
> On 17 Dec 2008 at 18:36, Bill Patten wrote:
> 
> > I suspect the difference is that I normally shut down the VM when I'm done
> > and you may close it from the console and "save the state". if I close and
> > "save the state" it takes about 11 seconds to open. If I am correct  then
> > Rocky might like to know, otherwise he could wind up with real slow times
> > like I had.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
> > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
> > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 3:11 PM
> > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VPC - What Do I Do Now?
> >
> >
> > I'm running Sun VirtualBox on my Vista Business laptop.
> > 2.4GB Core 2 Duo, 4GB RAM
> >
> > It takes about 15 seconds to start up an XP VM loaded with Office 2003 or
> > 2007.
> >
> > On 17 Dec 2008 at 10:10, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access  wrote:
> >
> > > ON the Vista machine, which is my kind of 'backup' box, I've got 2007
> > > installed.  If I want 2003, I think I have to uninstall 2007 and install
> > > them in order.
> > >
> > > 3 minutes to start up a VM?  Hmmm....could be inconvenient.
> > >
> > >
> > > Rocky Smolin
> > > Beach Access Software
> > > 858-259-4334
> > > www.e-z-mrp.com
> > > www.bchacc.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill Patten
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 10:04 AM
> > > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VPC - What Do I Do Now?
> > >
> > > Hi Rocky,
> > >
> > > Yes you have to install an operating system. I have  Vista Home, Vista
> > > Business, XP and Windows 95 machines setup so I can test software on 
> > > what
> > > my
> > > clients may be using.
> > >
> > > Also I have Access 97, Access 2003 and Access 2007 installed on my main
> > > Vista 64 machine, and do not have any problems with Access except 
> > > waiting
> > > for 2007 to re-install after using 2003 (I only work in 2003, just test
> > > 2007) and then re-install 2003 after using 2007.
> > >
> > > Open 2007 after using 2003 install time 81 seconds Open 2003 after using
> > > 2007 install time 39 seconds
> > >
> > > Open XP VM to use Access 2003 about 3 minutes
> > >
> > > By the way if I have 2003 open and then open 2007 it only takes 49 
> > > seconds
> > > to install 2007  and both appear to work, though I doubt I'd do that 
> > > very
> > > often but it's nice to know you can.
> > >
> > > Things do run a little slower on a Virtual Machine too, so for 
> > > developing
> > > I'd use what ever version I needed on my main machine.
> > >
> > > Having VM's with different operating systems however is very helpful.
> > >
> > > HTH
> > >
> > > Bill.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
> > > To: "'Off Topic'" <dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com>; "List"
> > > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 9:03 AM
> > > Subject: [dba-Tech] VPC - What Do I Do Now?
> > >
> > >
> > > OK.  I'm going to do Virtual PC.  First I had to upgrade Vista to
> > > Ultimate.
> > > Then I downloaded and installed VPC.  Created a VM called Office 2003
> > > because the Vista box has Office 2007.  I want to set up an Office 2003
> > > machine and an Office 200 machine for testing.
> > >
> > > Started VPC and I get the black screen with Action Edit Floppy Help. 
> > > And
> > > I'm stuck.  God knows I don't want to read the manual.  I suppose I have
> > > to
> > > install an OS now.  You VM gurus, briefly what do I do next?
> > >
> > > MTIA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Rocky Smolin
> > >
> > > Beach Access Software
> > >
> > > 858-259-4334
> > >
> > > www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/>
> > >
> > > www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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