Lembit Soobik
lembit.dbamail at t-online.de
Sat May 31 10:59:07 CDT 2008
thank you, Bill, I'm using Acronis 11 home right now, and intend to get to Echo WS, so your input helped me. Lembit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Patten" <bill_patten at embarqmail.com> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 6:25 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Really and for true, how can I... > Steve, before you go to all that trouble, and you can easily practice on > a > different PC, check out Acronis Universal Restore. It has many of the > drivers needed built into it. If you look on there site you will find > Acronis has a package deal for Echo Workstation and Universal restore for > about $89. I know personally of 2 cases where it saved the day. > > I had a friend that tried to restore a PC image on a laptop. It would not > work, and windows repair would not fix it. He used the Universal repair > and > on the first try got the image working. > > I have a Vista 64 machine that I set up with Raid 0 etc. and had all kinds > of problems with the Intel/Dell/64 bit combination. One of the suggested > solutions was to revert back to the Auto Raid choice in the ROM Bios. It > would not boot. A restore would not work, booting with the Vista disk and > repair would not work. So I tested trying to install a fresh Vista > installation with that configuration and it worked, indicating that Vista > install did in fact have the correct drivers. > > So then I made an image using Acronis Workstation Echo, created a boot CD > from the Acronis install and clicked the use Universal Restore when I > built > it. > > Made the change in the bios, installed a fresh SATA drive, booted to the > CD > and viola, it worked. The system has been working for about a month now > and > is much more stable the before. > > It's a fairly low risk deal as long has you hang on to the original disk, > you can always go back if needed. And by the way I did not use DVD's or > anything just placed the image on my server, then when I booted on boot > cd, > went across the network and restored. Oh Acronis Boot disk will find most > networks and even USB's > > If I can be of more help or you have any questions give me a shout. > > > Bill > > > PS, No I do not work for or have any affiliation with Acronis. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Erbach" <erbachs at gmail.com> > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 6:17 AM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Really and for true, how can I... > > > Lembit, > > It isn't magic, no; but if the goal is to get up and running on a new > system with all the old software, burning DVDs takes longer. > > I am eager to try this controller card method. > > Steve Erbach > Neenah, WI > USA > > On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 6:52 AM, Lembit Soobik > <lembit.dbamail at t-online.de> wrote: >> thanks, Steve. >> >> doing image backups to DVD is no magic, is it? >> so if that path works, I much prefer it. >> >> OTOH, your step 3 sounds like requiring black magic? >> "Unhook the new PC's C: drive from its internal >>> controllers and just let it sit there unpowered for a while. (I'm not >>> sure whether the new PC should be booted with just the new IDE >>> controller card installed." >> >> are you going to try that? >> >> Lembit >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Steve Erbach" <erbachs at gmail.com> >> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" >> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> >> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 12:16 PM >> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Really and for true, how can I... >> >> >>> Lembit, Jon, and Jim L., >>> >>> Our network administrator at work had good things to say about >>> Acronis. However he seemed to think that to really get the "restore >>> the system to dissimilar hardware" to work right, one needed to do >>> image backups onto DVD. That's what he said. >>> >>> He did offer an alternative, though, one that might just do the trick. >>> Here's the routine (assuming IDE drives...but it's similar for SATA): >>> >>> 1) Install a new IDE controller card in the old PC and make sure the >>> current drivers are installed. >>> >>> 2) Shut down the old PC, disconnect the C: drive (the one you want to >>> transfer to the new box) from the internal IDE controller, wire it up >>> to the new IDE controller, and fire up the old PC to ensure that the >>> C: drive will boot from the new controller. Shut down. >>> >>> 3) Install that same new IDE controller card in the NEW PC along with >>> the old C: drive. Unhook the new PC's C: drive from its internal >>> controllers and just let it sit there unpowered for a while. (I'm not >>> sure whether the new PC should be booted with just the new IDE >>> controller card installed. I'm not clear on whether the ROMs in the >>> PC are supposed to recognize the new hardware first...if that's even >>> something that normally happens. Does the hard disk store all the >>> configuration information?) >>> >>> 4) Fire up the NEW PC. The old disk drive SHOULD boot from that new >>> IDE controller. Then Windows on the old drive will detect that >>> there's new hardware that requires drivers: sound, video, etc. The >>> key to all this is that the drive should "know" about the controller >>> it's hooked to. All the other drivers are secondary to the disk >>> controller. If the boot drive already has drivers for that particular >>> controller then it should be happy to boot from it and the rest of the >>> drivers can be installed when the "new hardware detected" messages >>> appear. >>> >>> 5) Once all the drivers are installed, the old drive should be ready >>> to go as the main boot drive in the new system with all the old >>> programs in place and ready to go. >>> >>> 6) Finally, reconnect the new drive in a slave mode, use Casper (our >>> net admin's favorite) to clone the old drive onto the new one, unhook >>> the old drive and set the new drive to be the master, and fire up the >>> new PC with its newly cloned new drive...and Bob's your uncle, Fanny's >>> your aunt. >>> >>> All of this is simpler if one uses SATA drives, but the fact that it >>> appears possible with plain old IDE drives is very encouraging...all >>> for the cost of an IDE controller and Casper. >>> >>> Steve Erbach > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1473 - Release Date: > 29.05.2008 19:53 > >