Jim Lawrence
accessd at shaw.ca
Sat May 31 12:41:50 CDT 2008
Hi Lembit: No it is not. Many of my client's drives are well in excess of 500GB. A DVD backup for these is just not practical but a high capacity portable drive can be the ticket. I just use BartsPE DVD to initialize things and then re-image back to portable. In most case the clients as well as myself have a local network which allows a network re-image and again I use a properly configured BartsPE DVD I use DriveImageXML extensively and with BartsPE DVD. The only issue is that the image does not backup the boot-tracks. ;-( If anyone does decide to go the BartsPE/DriveImageXML routine check out the following videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78gKzcuq-dw&mode=related&search= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WePCtSeKnd4&mode=related&search= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTEnKA7tOXM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8vtcdDQF8A&NR=1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0reKK2ASEaU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G-svI0xYXg&mode=related&search= I hope this helps someone. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 4:53 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Really and for true, how can I... thanks, Steve. doing image backups to DVD is no magic, is it? so if that path works, I much prefer it. OTOH, your step 3 sounds like requiring black magic? "Unhook the new PC's C: drive from its internal > controllers and just let it sit there unpowered for a while. (I'm not > sure whether the new PC should be booted with just the new IDE > controller card installed." are you going to try that? Lembit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Erbach" <erbachs at gmail.com> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Really and for true, how can I... > Lembit, Jon, and Jim L., > > Our network administrator at work had good things to say about > Acronis. However he seemed to think that to really get the "restore > the system to dissimilar hardware" to work right, one needed to do > image backups onto DVD. That's what he said. > > He did offer an alternative, though, one that might just do the trick. > Here's the routine (assuming IDE drives...but it's similar for SATA): > > 1) Install a new IDE controller card in the old PC and make sure the > current drivers are installed. > > 2) Shut down the old PC, disconnect the C: drive (the one you want to > transfer to the new box) from the internal IDE controller, wire it up > to the new IDE controller, and fire up the old PC to ensure that the > C: drive will boot from the new controller. Shut down. > > 3) Install that same new IDE controller card in the NEW PC along with > the old C: drive. Unhook the new PC's C: drive from its internal > controllers and just let it sit there unpowered for a while. (I'm not > sure whether the new PC should be booted with just the new IDE > controller card installed. I'm not clear on whether the ROMs in the > PC are supposed to recognize the new hardware first...if that's even > something that normally happens. Does the hard disk store all the > configuration information?) > > 4) Fire up the NEW PC. The old disk drive SHOULD boot from that new > IDE controller. Then Windows on the old drive will detect that > there's new hardware that requires drivers: sound, video, etc. The > key to all this is that the drive should "know" about the controller > it's hooked to. All the other drivers are secondary to the disk > controller. If the boot drive already has drivers for that particular > controller then it should be happy to boot from it and the rest of the > drivers can be installed when the "new hardware detected" messages > appear. > > 5) Once all the drivers are installed, the old drive should be ready > to go as the main boot drive in the new system with all the old > programs in place and ready to go. > > 6) Finally, reconnect the new drive in a slave mode, use Casper (our > net admin's favorite) to clone the old drive onto the new one, unhook > the old drive and set the new drive to be the master, and fire up the > new PC with its newly cloned new drive...and Bob's your uncle, Fanny's > your aunt. > > All of this is simpler if one uses SATA drives, but the fact that it > appears possible with plain old IDE drives is very encouraging...all > for the cost of an IDE controller and Casper. > > Steve Erbach > Neenah, WI > USA > > On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Lembit Soobik > <lembit.dbamail at t-online.de> wrote: >> look at "Acronis true image echo workstation". it might do the job, but I >> have not tested it. >> from their site: >> " >> An ideal solution for backup and disaster recovery of the entire office >> network or a local computer, Acronis(R) True Image EchoT Workstation >> gives you >> many options, including the ability to backup an entire system or >> individual >> files or folders; perform a disaster recovery backup or restore files, >> folders, or an entire disk from an image; manage backup/restore tasks >> remotely; restore the system to dissimilar hardware; and much more. >> Download >> Free Trial now >> >> " >> and if you try it, let me know how it works >> >> Lembit >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Steve Erbach" <erbachs at gmail.com> >> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" >> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 12:16 AM >> Subject: [dba-Tech] Really and for true, how can I... >> >> >>> ...take a perfectly good, bootable IDE hard disk from one PC that's >>> seen better days and mount it in a new PC with a new hard disk, and >>> make the old drive boot the new PC? I mean, really. Are we forever >>> doomed to having to re-install every bleeping bit of software on a new >>> PC? >>> >>> I ask because it can become very problematical to re-install some >>> software if there never was a CD for it. Besides the fact that it >>> could take hours and hours to go through the routine and download all >>> the farging upgrades to get everything on the new system to the point >>> that it's as usable as the old PC. > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1473 - Release Date: > 29.05.2008 19:53 > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com