Jim Lawrence
accessd at shaw.ca
Thu Aug 5 20:32:41 CDT 2010
Actually, where there are 10 to 50 users, where internet and resources are very limited, a Linux based alternative makes far more sense. Ubuntu desktop, Debian server, OpenOffice, Zimbra mail server (there are a few to choose from) Thunderbird mail client...Chrome, FireBird etc etc... Ubuntu was initially created to be able to utilize old equipment in areas where limited resources were available. All the .Net languages are available on Linux, through frameworks like Mono and Grasshopper and I understand there is even PowerBasic for Linux. Then there in Intranet web application which are very popular. (Did a client's 10 uesr site around the end of last year.) But in North America, Europe and much of the far east internet is fast and reliable. In summary, it all depends where you are doing a majority of your business. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 5:39 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The status of the browser I'm disagreeing with you. :-) Those 10 - 50 user networks are better served with an office suite (MS Office/Open Office) on each workstation, a basic file server and a simple mail server (Mercury Mail Server??). There are many parts of the world where internet access is too slow/expensive/unreliable (select any one, two or all three) to make cloud based computing a viable option. -- Stuart On 5 Aug 2010 at 14:36, Mark Breen wrote: > Hello Stuart, > > Are you saying that you agree or disagree with my proposition? > > I agree that there are millions of offices that just want basic office > functionality, but none want the hassle of a local onsite File Server > and Exchange Server. Witness Janet Erbach's recent experiences with > Windows SBS. > > I would love to see all the 10 - 20 - 50 user networks switch to a > skybox type storage and online WP, Spreadsheet and email. I love > gmail for domains, but unfortunately google docs are not there yet. > The new Office Live (have you all seen that -free online MS Office no > installation required) is an attractive proposition. > > Thanks > > Mark > > > > > On 5 August 2010 11:58, Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> > wrote: > > > Look at the millions of workstations in offices around the world > > where management just want their staff to do their jobs with word > > processors, spreadsheets, databases and internal email. > > > > I certainly don't see that changing too much in the next 5 years - > > at least, not in my part of the world. > > > > -- > > Stuart > > > > > > On 5 Aug 2010 at 10:25, Mark Breen wrote: > > > > > Hello Jim > > > > > > I recently spent 90 minutes discussing the future of the desktop > > > with my brother-in-law who works for Microsoft since he left > > > school. > > > > > > I said that I believed that in 5 years only, we will see windows > > > disappearing from the standard desktop and people moving to > > > browser based desktops. > > > > > > He laughed and said no way. I was saying that for the average > > > user that needs word processor, spreadsheet and browser, we will > > > finally be able to get off the Windows treadmill. > > > > > > Do you think that my time frame is too short? Considering how > > > fast Chrome is moving, it could happen. > > > > > > Paul, my BIL, mentioned video editing, and other heavy apps, and I > > > responded that those can stay on Windows, but they represent only > > > 5-10% of users, 90% nowadays just need a browser. Even accounts > > > software is moving finally, to a Saas or as we called in in early > > > 2000's, an Application Service Provider - haha, how old fashioned > > > that sounds now, almost like 80's hair styles on ladies nowadays. > > > > > > So, am I completely wrong with my "The Windows desktop will be > > > reduced by 50% in 5 years time comment? > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > On 31 July 2010 02:48, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote: > > > > > > > Here is an interesting article link discussing the current world > > > > of the browser and as related to the internet. > > > > > > > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/07/16/browser_wars/ > > > > > > > > According to the latest stats IE no longer holds the dominate > > > > place among browsers: > > > > > > > > http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp > > > > > > > > What does this mean? > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com