[dba-Tech] Faster, cheaper and better

Jim,

>  An average house here (15 to 30K sq footage)

You mean 1.5K-3K sq ft, right?

PB

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On 6/16/2010 10:19 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi Gustav:
>
> Here is a couple links that might interest you.
>
> http://beagleboard.org/ and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beagle_Board
>
>
> An aside:
>
> I understand the power costs over in much of Europe are very high.
>
> We here on the north coast of the NA continent are quite spoiled with some
> of the cheapest power (all hydro) anywhere so it has never been a real
> concern. (that is why Microsoft and Google are situated here along with a
> host of other companies... cheap power.)
>
> An average house here (15 to 30K sq footage), heating with electricty pays
> between $12.00 and $15.00 CDN (10 to 12 EUR) per month. Business rates are
> lower (35 kW per month and up).
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 11:39 PM
> To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Faster, cheaper and better
>
> Hi Jim
>
> Yes, but these old boxes use a lot of power, and if such a box runs for 24
> hours that _really_ adds up on this side of the pond.
> My thought was that an Atom-based board would use far less power while
> providing enough performance.
>
> /gustav
>
>    
>>>> accessd at shaw.ca 15-06-2010 19:45>>>
>>>>          
> Hi Gustav:
>
> Some of the best servers I have worked with are old beater boxes running
> some form of Linux but seem unfazed with 10,000 hits a day.
>
> I was working on an old Win2000 box that this company has been running as
> their web server and it seems secure and able to handle their web site
> requirements just fine.... so I recommended they keep it until it starts
> have problems or no longer supports their requirements.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 8:38 AM
> To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Faster, cheaper and better
>
> Hi Jim
>
> Certainly interesting for the big guys though with one potential limitation:
> 32-bit only. However, for a web site, who cares if you run sixteen 32-bit or
> four 64-bit virtual servers in parallel?
> For normal use it could be cool with a 8 or 16 x Atom CPU board ...
>
> /gustav
>
>
>    
>>>> accessd at shaw.ca 15-06-2010 16:55>>>
>>>>          
> Servers can be very expensive as they require huge boxes, many cooling fans,
> a power supply that requires the biggest UPS, heatsink and more fans. The
> CPUs have fans and heatsinks as big as a head. It requires two people just
> to roll them into place. Then we throw in redundancy...
>
> They can be a really pain in the back; literally... I know. Most of the
> pain, I understand is in the price (far beyond my pay grade) and
> subsequently the maintenance and power consumption. They suck power
> big-time. It is like turning on an electric stove or 20 hot plates and never
> turning them off... no wonder they need their own power circuits.
>
> But there isn't much that can be done about it. If you have a lot of data
> and need performance you just pay... well until now:
>
> http://venturebeat.com/2010/06/13/seamicro-drops-an-atom-bomb-on-the-server-
>
> industry/
>
> Jim
>
>
>
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