Jim Lawrence
accessd at shaw.ca
Wed Jun 16 12:23:11 CDT 2010
Very observant... yes you are right of course. 8-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 8:58 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Faster, cheaper and better Jim, > An average house here (15 to 30K sq footage) You mean 1.5K-3K sq ft, right? PB ----- On 6/16/2010 10:19 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Gustav: > > Here is a couple links that might interest you. > > http://beagleboard.org/ and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beagle_Board > > > An aside: > > I understand the power costs over in much of Europe are very high. > > We here on the north coast of the NA continent are quite spoiled with some > of the cheapest power (all hydro) anywhere so it has never been a real > concern. (that is why Microsoft and Google are situated here along with a > host of other companies... cheap power.) > > An average house here (15 to 30K sq footage), heating with electricty pays > between $12.00 and $15.00 CDN (10 to 12 EUR) per month. Business rates are > lower (35 kW per month and up). > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 11:39 PM > To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Faster, cheaper and better > > Hi Jim > > Yes, but these old boxes use a lot of power, and if such a box runs for 24 > hours that _really_ adds up on this side of the pond. > My thought was that an Atom-based board would use far less power while > providing enough performance. > > /gustav > > >>>> accessd at shaw.ca 15-06-2010 19:45>>> >>>> > Hi Gustav: > > Some of the best servers I have worked with are old beater boxes running > some form of Linux but seem unfazed with 10,000 hits a day. > > I was working on an old Win2000 box that this company has been running as > their web server and it seems secure and able to handle their web site > requirements just fine.... so I recommended they keep it until it starts > have problems or no longer supports their requirements. > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 8:38 AM > To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Faster, cheaper and better > > Hi Jim > > Certainly interesting for the big guys though with one potential limitation: > 32-bit only. However, for a web site, who cares if you run sixteen 32-bit or > four 64-bit virtual servers in parallel? > For normal use it could be cool with a 8 or 16 x Atom CPU board ... > > /gustav > > > >>>> accessd at shaw.ca 15-06-2010 16:55>>> >>>> > Servers can be very expensive as they require huge boxes, many cooling fans, > a power supply that requires the biggest UPS, heatsink and more fans. The > CPUs have fans and heatsinks as big as a head. It requires two people just > to roll them into place. Then we throw in redundancy... > > They can be a really pain in the back; literally... I know. Most of the > pain, I understand is in the price (far beyond my pay grade) and > subsequently the maintenance and power consumption. They suck power > big-time. It is like turning on an electric stove or 20 hot plates and never > turning them off... no wonder they need their own power circuits. > > But there isn't much that can be done about it. If you have a lot of data > and need performance you just pay... well until now: > > http://venturebeat.com/2010/06/13/seamicro-drops-an-atom-bomb-on-the-server- > > industry/ > > Jim > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2941 - Release Date: 06/16/10 06:35:00 > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com