[dba-Tech] The state of the web

Salakhetdinov Shamil mcp2004 at mail.ru
Wed Dec 5 18:03:55 CST 2012


HI Jim --

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Windows8 is well behind the curve and not serious predictions could be made
for the next couple of years while waiting to see how well the product is
adopted.
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Yes, but have a look here is an inexpensive yet rather powerful Win8 Phone coming for USD249:
http://techcrunch.com/2012/12/05/nokia-unveils-latest-windows-phone-8-device-lumia-620-packs-3-8-inch-clearblack-display-nfc-costs-249-before-taxes/

while iPhone5 is planned to be sold here for ~USD1200 (35,000RUB)
and WinPhone8 - Lumia 920 for ~USD700

Thank you.

-- Shamil

Среда,  5 декабря 2012, 12:56  от "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>:
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I see little difference between observations made in Russia than the ones
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made here.
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Developer are still going to write most apps for iOS for the next little
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while as iPhone users are still willing to pay more but the market is
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rapidly changing. I suspect Android will get an ever larger share of the app
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market and prices as the number of good products continue to increase.
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Windows8 is well behind the curve and not serious predictions could be made
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for the next couple of years while waiting to see how well the product is
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I believe there is quite a difference between apps and full applications and
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games. Apps lend themselves well towards specific platforms as they are
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small dedicated programs. Re-writing for another OS is not a huge task.
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OTOH, when a program is a comprehensive application or game, re-designing
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for another platform is a major venture especially for a small developer
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team in a Startup company. This is where browser based HTML5 application
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Our browsers are still not at the point where a serious application can
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achieve the performance matching a proprietary piece of software but I
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believe that it is a only a temporary obstacle. JIT browser compiling is
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under development and we should expect stellar speeds in the near future.
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Being able to write-once and deploy everywhere, on all platforms should be
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possible in the future.
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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov
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Shamil
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Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 2:08 PM
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To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
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Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The state of the web
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Hi Jim --
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I have read this morning a poll of mobile apps devs companies
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(http://slon.ru/appheroes/kakim-budet-rynok-prilozheniy-v-2013-godu-mnenie-r
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azrabotchikov-858560.xhtml (in Russian)) - 66% vs. 33% suppose that native
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mobile apps will dominate over HTML5 within the next five years. (Yes, I
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realize that the mobile apps developers can be not the best polling source
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for "native mobile apps vs. HTM5 apps" question)...
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Thank you.
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-- Shamil
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Вторник,  4 декабря 2012, 12:03  от "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>:
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>The web world is more than ever becoming "the" computer world. Most
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development is now done on the web. Whether the Cloud will eventually
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replace most in-house server based systems is debatable and will require
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much more security, management and backup features before it will be
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completely trustable.
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Apple, via Steve Jobs, stopped the whole advance of plug-in technology which
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was patching up browser functionality. It was not done for altruistic
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reasons but to stop third party application from skipping the Apple toll
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booth. But it did have a very important unexpected side-affect. It made
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browser designers dependant on open standards, superfast browsers, gave them
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the ability/responsibility for controlling security, that plug-in would
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never allow and the dominance of HTML5 and CSS3.
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Whether Mark Zuckerberg, likes or dislikes HTML5 is not important as the
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proprietary insecure plug-in world of the past is dead and dying...in fact
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he is trying to buck the tide. How many users will allow another vulnerable
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plug-in to install on their system so they can play a game or two? The other
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option is to use a proprietary server language. It can be built very fast
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system to a stop and then huge farms of special servers have to
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integrated...very expensive to own and very expensive to maintain. Those
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The new web world is more and more evolving into distributive open
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