Jim Lawrence
accessd at shaw.ca
Wed Dec 5 21:15:35 CST 2012
Hi Shamil: The term Desktop, I guess only refers to PCs though how would you describe the native "window" of a mobile device? The difference between Browser and the Mobile Window seems to be blurring as Android is creating a browser OS for some of their new tablets. It would then be difficult (impossible?) to create a proprietary interface. A good Cloud management interface could not come soon enough. I would tend to look for an OSS alternative unless a new product could be proven superior... The link seems to emphasize the apparent Cloud Management product vacuum. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov Shamil Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 3:57 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The state of the web Hi Jim -- I meant *mobile* native apps, "desktop is dead" you know :) Updating mobile apps via centralized apps stores is a "breeze". FYI: identity management third-party tools/services are on the rise in mobile world: http://techcrunch.com/2012/12/04/with-the-rise-of-new-apps-okta-raises-25m-f or-identity-management-platform/ The identity management issues should get satisfactory practical solutions real soon I hope. Thank you. -- Shamil Среда, 5 декабря 2012, 12:21 от "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>: > > > > >Those facts are definitely worthy of consideration and there will never be a > time when proprietary desktop programs will not be needed and its advantages > of raw speed are very necessary. > > OTOH Two factures should be considered when deploying any application larger > than an app style product. > > One, security to both your server and the client when running a > comprehensive web based application is carefully guarded through > state-of-art technology deployed by your modern browser. There are numerous > checks on any web site attempting to deploy what may be a suspect request. > The Sandboxing within the current browsers is very good and very current > (real-time) as it is being updated continuous. This is one area that you as > a programmer do not have to be completely responsible for even if your host > was hacked. > > Two, deployment and updates are virtually instantaneous. This functionality, > lends itself well to the concept of agile programming. An online > application/web site does not need to be completed before being launched. > Components, modules, updates and fixes can be continuously streamed to all > clients. There is no delay and few BE management issues to be concerned > about. > > A couple of year ago when putting in new system is one of the many "box" > stores, between customers, a casher noticed her register touch screen > browser image change, adding a few more buttons. A couple of modules had > been added at some central location and then had been deployed, within > minutes, to every store across North America, Europe and parts of Asia. > Impressive to say the least. (That can never be done with a desktop type > application...though a browser based management system can sure help.) > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov > Shamil > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 2:08 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The state of the web > > Hi Jim -- > > I have read this morning a poll of mobile apps devs companies > (http://slon.ru/appheroes/kakim-budet-rynok-prilozheniy-v-2013-godu-mnenie-r > azrabotchikov-858560.xhtml (in Russian)) - 66% vs. 33% suppose that native > mobile apps will dominate over HTML5 within the next five years. (Yes, I > realize that the mobile apps developers can be not the best polling source > for "native mobile apps vs. HTM5 apps" question)... > > Thank you. > > -- Shamil > > Вторник, 4 декабря 2012, 12:03 от "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >The web world is more than ever becoming "the" computer world. Most > > > development is now done on the web. Whether the Cloud will eventually > > > replace most in-house server based systems is debatable and will require > > > much more security, management and backup features before it will be > > > completely trustable. > > > > > > Apple, via Steve Jobs, stopped the whole advance of plug-in technology which > > > was patching up browser functionality. It was not done for altruistic > > > reasons but to stop third party application from skipping the Apple toll > > > booth. But it did have a very important unexpected side-affect. It made > > > browser designers dependant on open standards, superfast browsers, gave them > > > the ability/responsibility for controlling security, that plug-in would > > > never allow and the dominance of HTML5 and CSS3. > > > > > > Whether Mark Zuckerberg, likes or dislikes HTML5 is not important as the > > > proprietary insecure plug-in world of the past is dead and dying...in fact > > > he is trying to buck the tide. How many users will allow another vulnerable > > > plug-in to install on their system so they can play a game or two? The other > > > option is to use a proprietary server language. It can be built very fast > > > but it does not take long before thousands of users will grind the whole > > > system to a stop and then huge farms of special servers have to > > > integrated...very expensive to own and very expensive to maintain. Those > > > type of application solutions, on so many levels are no longer workable. > > > > > > The new web world is more and more evolving into distributive open > > > standards, where data presentation is managed on the browsers and delegating > > > servers for only managing the data marshalling, gathering and storing. > > > > > > >http://www.thesecuritypractice.com/the_security_practice/2012/11/in-defense > - > > > of-html5-1.html > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com