[dba-Tech] So long, Norman

Hans-Christian Andersen hans.andersen at phulse.com
Mon Jun 4 15:22:42 CDT 2012


Jim,

You are wrong. I'm looking at the machine as we speak and it has only 4 games installed:
SimCity 4
Diablo 2
Civilization III
CivCity Rome

None of these are resource demanding games, even for a machine like this.

The rest of the software installed is all the usual stuff. CuteFTP, OpenOffice, PDF Creator, Skype, Canon Printer Utilities, Google Picasa, all the Microsoft applications like MSN Messenger & Silverlight, Chrome, Firefox etc, and some paint / photo manipulation software.

The system specs on this machine are:

HP Pavillion DV2714CA

Intel dual core T2330 1.6ghz, 1mb L2 cache, 533mhz FSB
2 gigs of DDR2 ram
160 gb sata hd

You can read the rest here:
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/ca/en/ho/WF06b/12139188-78299199-78299212-78299212-78299212-81135007-81575996.html?dnr=1

It has only started falling apart in the last year. The chassis frame around the screen is coming apart, but this is superficial. Hardware-wise it is still fine. It could probably be fixed and it would be as good as new.

So, the user of this system has neither been installing weird applications like crazy, nor is this some hacked together cheap laptop from some little known company.

Hans




On 2012-06-04, at 11:49 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> Let's be honest, without mincing words; the hardware you are talking about
> was a cheap unpowered piece of junk. It was physically falling apart and was
> suffering from a dozen pieces of game software... Nothing frys a system like
> high resource demanding game software on flaky low-end hardware.
> 
> My personal experiences have been quite different. I bought a good solid
> laptop, not cheap but definitely not over priced. That laptop is six years
> old and it has virtual every communications, web-design and software
> building product, graphic design and manipulation software, database and
> testing software running on it. It has been dragged to every office, in a
> dozen towns, that I have worked in and it has been used to setup servers,
> stations, router, switches, burn software, connect remote techs, testing
> software, storing data and manage documents. I work on this computer 8 to 12
> hours a day, almost every day. It is a little unpowered for the new age as
> it is Tosiba Satellite, only has a dual core, has two GB of RAM and 120 GB
> HD.  
> 
> It runs like it always has; solid as a rock.
> 
> When it comes to Windows computers you are a really a terrible tech and I
> think it is more willful than by accident. ;-)
> 
> Jim
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hans-Christian
> Andersen
> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 9:02 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] So long, Norman
> 
> 
> John,
> 
> These are mostly just observations of other people lately and my experience
> supporting it at my company. I haven't been a Windows user since 2005 or so,
> but it was also the reason I left Windows back then.
> 
> I'm not sure it is specific to gaming. As a recent example, my wife's Win7
> laptop had very few games installed (its graphics card was the Intel GMA
> sort, not powerful enough to run most games) and really only just a handful
> of additional applications. She mostly used it for surfing, but its now
> un-usable. No blue screening, just lots of pausing, freezing and general
> slowness to the point of frustration for her, but there is nothing obviously
> wrong with it.
> 
> This is probably the 4th reinstall of Windows on that laptop (HP) in the
> last 4 or so years, but she's got a new laptop now, so I may just throw
> Linux onto this machine to extend its life.
> 
> I'm not saying that every Windows machine will eventually be completely
> crippled, but I always known them to develop quirks over time and become a
> less stable system overall (not stability in terms of blue screening, but in
> the sense that it is not behaving as expected ie. applications not starting,
> freezing or crashing), often for no identifiable reason.
> 
> If this hasn't been an issue for you, then you are obviously doing something
> right, but it's not clear to me what is being done wrong in the cases I have
> witnessed/experienced.
> 
> Hans
> 
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