Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields at torchlake.com
Mon Jun 4 16:14:08 CDT 2012
Yeah - that's rather disrespectful of the graphics artist! I wish you had been able to get a look at it. T Tina Norris Fields tinanfields at torchlake.com 231-322-2787 On 6/4/2012 4:41 PM, John Bartow wrote: > Like I said, I'm not a Windows fanatic, it just works for me. But just to > relate a Mac experience; I have quite a few Mac users on customer sites. I > once was working on the Windows Server 2003 print server in the prepress > department of a printing house, the graphics artist moaned made some comment > and restarted her Mac. I asked her what happened and she said it locked up, > it does that all the time. I asked if she has had someone look at it for > her. She said yes, but they said there was nothing they could do so I just > restart it and it works OK then. So later I asked the office manager if I > should check it out and she said no, they were told it was just user error > and she won't change how she does things so she just deals with it. Wow! If > one of the front office PCs had done that they would have been all over it. > But some Mac dude had told them it was user error and they just bought into > it and never worried about it. I did have a Mac techie that I subbed with > that I could have check it out but they just didn't care. I was just > flabbergasted. > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hans-Christian > Andersen > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 3:23 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] So long, Norman > > > Jim, > > You are wrong. I'm looking at the machine as we speak and it has only 4 > games installed: > SimCity 4 > Diablo 2 > Civilization III > CivCity Rome > > None of these are resource demanding games, even for a machine like this. > > The rest of the software installed is all the usual stuff. CuteFTP, > OpenOffice, PDF Creator, Skype, Canon Printer Utilities, Google Picasa, all > the Microsoft applications like MSN Messenger& Silverlight, Chrome, Firefox > etc, and some paint / photo manipulation software. > > The system specs on this machine are: > > HP Pavillion DV2714CA > > Intel dual core T2330 1.6ghz, 1mb L2 cache, 533mhz FSB > 2 gigs of DDR2 ram > 160 gb sata hd > > You can read the rest here: > http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/ca/en/ho/WF06b/12139188-78299199-78299212-782 > 99212-78299212-81135007-81575996.html?dnr=1 > > It has only started falling apart in the last year. The chassis frame around > the screen is coming apart, but this is superficial. Hardware-wise it is > still fine. It could probably be fixed and it would be as good as new. > > So, the user of this system has neither been installing weird applications > like crazy, nor is this some hacked together cheap laptop from some little > known company. > > Hans > > > > > On 2012-06-04, at 11:49 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > >> Let's be honest, without mincing words; the hardware you are talking >> about was a cheap unpowered piece of junk. It was physically falling >> apart and was suffering from a dozen pieces of game software... >> Nothing frys a system like high resource demanding game software on flaky > low-end hardware. >> My personal experiences have been quite different. I bought a good >> solid laptop, not cheap but definitely not over priced. That laptop is >> six years old and it has virtual every communications, web-design and >> software building product, graphic design and manipulation software, >> database and testing software running on it. It has been dragged to >> every office, in a dozen towns, that I have worked in and it has been >> used to setup servers, stations, router, switches, burn software, >> connect remote techs, testing software, storing data and manage >> documents. I work on this computer 8 to 12 hours a day, almost every >> day. It is a little unpowered for the new age as it is Tosiba >> Satellite, only has a dual core, has two GB of RAM and 120 GB HD. >> >> It runs like it always has; solid as a rock. >> >> When it comes to Windows computers you are a really a terrible tech >> and I think it is more willful than by accident. ;-) >> >> Jim >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of >> Hans-Christian Andersen >> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 9:02 AM >> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] So long, Norman >> >> >> John, >> >> These are mostly just observations of other people lately and my >> experience supporting it at my company. I haven't been a Windows user >> since 2005 or so, but it was also the reason I left Windows back then. >> >> I'm not sure it is specific to gaming. As a recent example, my wife's >> Win7 laptop had very few games installed (its graphics card was the >> Intel GMA sort, not powerful enough to run most games) and really only >> just a handful of additional applications. She mostly used it for >> surfing, but its now un-usable. No blue screening, just lots of >> pausing, freezing and general slowness to the point of frustration for >> her, but there is nothing obviously wrong with it. >> >> This is probably the 4th reinstall of Windows on that laptop (HP) in >> the last 4 or so years, but she's got a new laptop now, so I may just >> throw Linux onto this machine to extend its life. >> >> I'm not saying that every Windows machine will eventually be >> completely crippled, but I always known them to develop quirks over >> time and become a less stable system overall (not stability in terms >> of blue screening, but in the sense that it is not behaving as >> expected ie. applications not starting, freezing or crashing), often for > no identifiable reason. >> If this hasn't been an issue for you, then you are obviously doing >> something right, but it's not clear to me what is being done wrong in >> the cases I have witnessed/experienced. >> >> Hans >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >