Michael Mattys
michael at mattysconsulting.com
Sun May 13 22:05:38 CDT 2012
Interesting. Stuart's comment was about where the needed funds could (not should) come from in order to build the Enterprise. Hans sensed a deeper sentiment in Stuart's statement containing the word 'wasted.' Perhaps Stuart means to say that the two endeavors are equally futile or have equal potential. Perhaps not. Hans apparently regards expenditure on space exploration as less fruitful than 'researching/combatting climate change.' Controlling climate may prove to increase sustainability for constantly growing humanity. Then again, it might unleash terrible consequences such as disease. Michael R Mattys Mattys Consulting, LLC www.mattysconsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hans-Christian Andersen Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 10:00 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Enterprise in 20 Years If this discussion is heading towards a debate on whether climate change is man-made or not, I am not interested in debating this. I found that this is a waste of time, because I am neither an expert nor do I want to pretend to be one. Hans On 2012-05-13, at 6:16 PM, Stuart McLachlan wrote: > They are no more similar as concepts as a bicycle is to a fish. > > Are you trying to say that "sustainability" is a cure for "climate > change". If so, we obviously need to agree on what we mean by > "sustainability" and "climate change" and in what way (if > any) they are related. > > > > On 13 May 2012 at 18:01, Hans-Christian Andersen wrote: > >> >> To be quite frank, I'm not understanding what it is you are objecting to and why. They are no more different as concepts as a cure is to an illness. Please be more forthcoming. >> >> Hans >> >> >> >> On 2012-05-13, at 5:23 PM, Stuart McLachlan wrote: >> >>> Why do you conflate two totally different concepts? >>> >>> What have climate change and sustainability got to do with each other? >>> >>> >>> On 13 May 2012 at 16:33, Hans-Christian Andersen wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Then what did you mean by " researching/combatting climate change " ? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2012-05-13, at 4:01 PM, Stuart McLachlan wrote: >>>> >>>>> Please don't put words into my mouth. I didn't say anything about "living more sustainably" >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Stuart >>>>> >>>>> On 13 May 2012 at 15:56, Hans-Christian Andersen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> How would building a single ship make better sense than figuring out how we can live more sustainably on the only habitable planet that we know of so far? >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> Hans-Christian Andersen >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 13 May 2012, at 15:08, "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> We can do it if we divert all the money currently being wasted >>>>>>> on researching/combatting "climate change" :-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Stuart >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 13 May 2012 at 17:04, Arthur Fuller wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From slashdot...An engineer has produced detailed specs of how >>>>>>>> to build an ion-drive version of The Enterprise within 20 >>>>>>>> years. I've read it all and studied some parts in detail, and >>>>>>>> deem it feasible. However, I lack the funds. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.buildtheenterprise.org/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Arthur >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Prediction is difficult, especially of the future. >>>>>>>> -- Niels Bohr >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> dba-Tech mailing list >>>>>>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>>>>>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>>>>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> dba-Tech mailing list >>>>>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>>>>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>>>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> dba-Tech mailing list >>>>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>>>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> dba-Tech mailing list >>>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> dba-Tech mailing list >>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com