[dba-Tech] Windows 8 why?

Hi Gustav --

Good to know you're an advanced Win8 user. I will keep consulting about "hit the corners" and other tricks with you here, OK?
BTW, did you find a way to put several Win9 "Metro-style" UI running apps *windows* tiles on a big 23 inches screen? Jensen Harris presented an example with Twitter window tiled on the left side of the screen and the "main" app tile on the right and occupying the whole rest part of the screen. May I put three Win9 "Metro style"/WinRT running apps this way? If Yes, how can I do that by using a regular notebook "armored" with touchpad only?

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The reference to 1992 is very good and explains why a GUI in 2012 cannot be based on a 1992 environment ... it's 20 years ago.
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Yes... and No.
In fact, in my opinion (I can be wrong), the main reasons to design and build "Metro-style" interface were:

- 1. Legal - they (MS) wanted to avoid by any means "copycatting" Apple UI ideas introduced in iPhone and iPad;
- 2. Technical - they (MS) needed to put "new Windows UI" running on relatively "weak" ARM processors.

Do you remember "Windows Surface Table" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYoCmPKqHoY - that was year 2009, the year Jensen Harris tells in his presentation MS started to design and develop new "Metro-style" UI, the year when  iPhone 3GS was released. Do you see any "Win 9 marks" in the past "Windows Surface Tablet"? It looks more like Apply taskbar put in the middle of the "Windows Surface Table" screen...

Yes, MS did a very good job in the given context - still "In Windows 8, Metro is not complete" - one can expect it will get rather significant improvements in the coming years as it always happened in the past with MS products..

Thank you.

-- Shamil

Fri 23 Nov 2012 14:18:56 от "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>:
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Well, I've used Windows 8 from the beta and haven't missed the Start menu for a second. Of course, you have to learn to "hit the corners" but that comes quickly. One thing to learn, however, is not to switch off the computer, just touch the power button and it falls to sleep - touch again and it is ready in a few seconds.
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The reference to 1992 is very good and explains why a GUI in 2012 cannot be based on a 1992 environment ... it's 20 years ago.
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Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] På vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil
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Hi Gustav and Jim --
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Yes, that is a very interesting presentation.
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But weren't you "captured" by Jensen Harris charismatic style of presentation?
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Do you use Win8 everyday there?
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As you know I'm in the process of switching to Win8 as my main development system PC/notebook as I wanted to start developing for WinPhone8 and Windows RT. And I must note that currently my feeling of Win8 is as the following:
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"On a regular PC, Windows 8 is Mr. Hyde: a monster that terrorizes poor office workers and strangles their productivity."
>http://www.useit.com/alertbox/windows-8.html
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Yes, I'm using Win8 for one day only but I suppose the author of the referred above article is more right than wrong if one is accustomed to work with desktop part of Window using mouse/touchpad. For example, (that could be my notebook touchpad/my fingers issue or a general use case) - when I'm in *desktop mode* and I'm quickly moving mouse cursor from left to right  by using my notebook's touchpad (and I'm first unconsciouly pushing touchpad a bit) then I'm getting appeared rather large Win8 CommandBar (Search/Share/Start/Devices/Settings) on the right side of display and a large tile with current time, battery info on the left bottom corner. A kind of annoying as it doesn't appear every time - but most of the time and as I don't need it when it appears. (What for Windows "Metro-style" UI commandbar is needed in desktop mode at all, any way to suppress it  completely as well as time/battery info tile while in desktop mode?)...
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Anyway I have to adapt to Win8 ASAP, and I'm going to learn all kinds of Windows and other apps hot-keys, tips, tricks and secrets to get my UI manipulation productivity back to Win7 level... or higher?:
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"HomeNews by technologySoftwareOperating systems50 Windows 8 tips, tricks and secrets 50 Windows 8 tips, tricks and secrets"
>http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/50-windows-8-tips-tricks-and-secrets-1028220
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Did you notice in Jensen Harris year 1992 technology and design state "history excursion" as he mentioned WordPerfect which was then replaced by Word for Windows 1.0 as well as Yahoo which was then "superseded "by Google? - Win8 UI looks here as "WordPerfect and Yahoo" UI of year 2012, "WordPerfect" because I have to learn quite some hot-keys now to work with Win8 in desktop mode effectively, and Yahoo because its "Metro-style" interface could be as "crowded" as Yahoo one was... 
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So, "regardless of whether Metro is any good—opinions vary, apparently—one thing is incontrovertible. In Windows 8, Metro is not complete." 
>http://winsupersite.com/article/windows8/windows-8-review-part-2-metro-windows-144318
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You decide, wait for Windows 9 or go through Win8 adaptation "painful" experience right now...
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Thank you.
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-- Shamil

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