Arthur Fuller
fuller.artful at gmail.com
Thu Aug 22 14:07:52 CDT 2013
Jim, I'm working on several projects currently, as part of my in-depth mental conversion to Alpha Anywhere. One is a volunteer-management system for a non-profit housing outfit called Woodgreen. I am doing it for nothing. How's that for recursive? Another one is an app for safety engineers, which I'm also doing for nothing. A while back I wrote an Access + SQL app for the premier safety engineering firm in Canada. The app is perfect for tablet and/or smart phone so I'm rewriting it in Alpha Anywhere. (For those unacquainted with the term, safety engineering involves inspecting workstations in a factory, taking measurements of response times and in the event of non-compliance, making recommendations for fixing the problem.) Currently the users lug a laptop from workstation to workstation; a tablet makes a lot more sense. I've also got something that is part-time, and involves mentoring rather than hands-on development. The app is the largest Access app I've ever seen (700,000 lines of code); it talks to a MySQL back end. I'm providing help and analysis of the app to optimize it for performance; lots of replacing Access queries with Pass-Through queries that fire stored procedures in the BE. So far the results have been quite dramatic, in some cases a tenfold increase in performance. That's about it, at the moment. Arthur On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote: > Hi Arthur: > > A very interesting set of comments, Arthur. My question is why so many of > the best young (or should I just say younger) programmers in the world > spend so much of their time working on projects that will bring them no > financial gain... IOW it appears that money is not the main driving factor, > especially in the computer world...or is that financial motivation is > easier to quantify in this particular business. Is this the case in most > businesses? > > So what projects are you working on Now? > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com> > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < > dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:17:45 AM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why is there so many OSS projects? > > Jim, > > I can think of four reasons: > > 1. it is so difficult to find the funding for any given project; > 2. if one has the passion for programming, then funding and subsequent > corporatization of the concept is way too much pain in the ass; > 3. Jjust because I had the idea doesn't mean that I have the best > implementation; > 4. It's social networking on an intelligent plane, as opposed to the nude > sex-vids so popular among those with no other claim to fame. > > My partner Peter Brawley and I are both working on separate apps, which we > will both place in the OSS community as soon as they are ready for public > consumption. > > This could be because we are both now senior citizens and thus receiving > pensions, and therefore have enough to subsist, and consequently, money is > no longer a goal. Which is not to say that I am averse to money, but merely > that it is no longer a significant motive. At the moment I'm doing some > part-time mentoring for a client in San Francisco, and I bill him for about > 1 hour in 8, because a large part of the task involves research, so that > part is on my dime not his. I'm doing it because it's intellectually > interesting. The occasional check is nice, and I invest it in toys such as > my spanky new laptop, but it is certainly not the goal. As the > aforementioned Peter is fond of saying, "The best defense against > Alzheimer's is to Keep Thinking." The virtue of being old enough to collect > a pension is the freedom to choose which projects are worth your time. In > days of yore, we used to have an acronym in our company: YAFOES (yet > another f**king Order Entry System). Been there, done that. Now I'm on to > more significant problems, almost none of which pay money. And guess what? > I don't care. I can't afford fancy vacations in sunny climes but that too > is OK. > > Arthur > > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote: > > > One of these strange questions... It sure can not be the money? So why is > > there any Open Source projects at all...no money no work may seem logical > > to many but according to the following article this is not the case. > Humans > > are strange animals to say the least and programmers are probably the > > strangest humans. ;-) > > > > > > > http://readwrite.com/2013/08/14/mobile-developers-its-not-about-the-money#awesm=~of1TClo7jXYlzl > > > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > -- > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Arthur