Arthur Fuller
fuller.artful at gmail.com
Tue Dec 10 17:44:10 CST 2013
Don't get me wrong, Hans. I can deal with the various distros and have the scars to prove it. I meant my mother and your grandfather and their ilk. It just pisses me off that following an installation of just about anything on just about any Linux, none if any automatically create a symlink or shortcut etc. on their menu systems or start-bar, leaving the average user with the mystified question, "Ok, but where is it?" You and I and many people on this list know how to handle this, but unless my mom and your grandfather also know, my point stands, IMO. A. On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Hans-Christian Andersen < hans.andersen at phulse.com> wrote: > > I wouldn’t classify that as an issue with Linux, but with MySQL (or > whatever software it is you have frustrations with). You wouldn’t blame the > OS for the software that was designed not to be user-friendly, right? > > The same can be true for Windows as well. The 3 step process (backup, > uninstall, reinstall) for Windows works in same cases, but, in my > experience, it often doesn’t because you have additional layers of > complexity under the hood (ie. the registry, dll’s, local settings, etc). > Poorly designed Windows software can end up (and often do) requiring a > longer process to fix the software. > > Saying that, most Linux distros were not designed for IT people of the > Windows flavour, who prefer a GUI over the command line. Some of them are > though. You might want to take a look at OpenSuse, for instance. It is more > user-friendly with lots of GUI tools to help you administer your server and > software. > > Personally, I don’t like that. In my opinion, the command line (bash, zsh, > etc) trumps a GUI any day (which, I’m guessing, is why Microsoft introduced > Powershell, because they saw that need). > > - Hans > > > > > On Dec 10, 2013, at 2:22 PM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com> > wrote: > > > The following link describes how to uninstall and then re-install a > > corrupted version of MySQL 5.x on Linux. > > > > http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-completely-reinstall-mysql-server/ > > > > Compare that to the Windows 3-step: > > 1. Back up the data directory. > > 2. Un-install the program. > > 3. Install the program > > > > Or even worse, the 1-click recovery, as in Office or SQL Server or > numerous > > other programs: > > 1. Repair. > > > > This article is an excellent summary of why Windows continues to win the > > battle for the desktop. As soon as something goes wrong, the Linux user > is > > off into the frightening world of the command line -- and not once, not > > twice, but several times. > > > > The very least that vendors could do is add an icon to the desktop or the > > menu. But apparently, that is stooping too low. As long as that situation > > persists, Linux will never win the desktop, despite the admirable efforts > > of the Ubuntu and Mint etc. boys. They are writing for the Highest Common > > Denominator. Bill and Steve chose instead to write for the Lowest Common > > Denominator. > > > > I run them side by side almost always, and can see obvious advantages to > > Linux, when everything goes well, but even then, could the vendors not > > possibly supply an addition to the desktop that leads to > Uninstall/Repair? > > Talk about Shooting Yourself in the Foot! Maybe the real hurdle to > surmount > > is their collective refusal to recognize that Windows and Apple make it > so > > much simpler? > > -- > > Arthur > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Arthur