[dba-Tech] Another OS operating system

Stuart McLachlan stuart at lexacorp.com.pg
Sun Feb 3 15:12:30 CST 2013


It must have been  BeOS r5 Personal Edition which runs on top of previous versions of  
Windows :-(

According to VirtualBox, BeOS "Doesn't work"
but Haiku does:
https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Guest_OSes



On 4 Feb 2013 at 7:02, Stuart McLachlan wrote:

> I'm not 100% certain,  but I have a strong recollection of trying BeOS a few years ago.   IIRC, 
> I installed it from one of those DVDs that come with computer magazines.
> 
> If so, it would probably have been on VirtualBox since that's the only VM I've used seriously.
>  (It was on a previous laptop and I don't have that VM any more.)
> 
> -- 
> Stuart
> 
> On 3 Feb 2013 at 14:04, Arthur Fuller wrote:
> 
> > Is there a VM that runs BeOS? I tried it way back when and would like to
> > try it again.
> > 
> > A.
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Hans-Christian Andersen <
> > hans.andersen at phulse.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi Mark,
> > >
> > > You are correct. I do have some affection for it, in the sense that it
> > > saddens me when technology with great potential that is technically better
> > > than the competition dies prematurely because of market realities. BeOS was
> > > fast and a really well designed OS. It didn't have tons of legacy junk to
> > > complicate things and it was capable of proper multitasking. There are
> > > YouTube videos out there that demonstrate just how many system intensive
> > > things they were able to run concurrently without the OS breaking a sweat
> > > or slowing/stuttering and all on the modest technology we had back then
> > > (early pentiums etc).
> > >
> > > BeOS was a chance for us to have a clean break - a well thought out OS
> > > that was designed to take proper advantage of the more modern hardware and
> > > CPU architecture of the time. Instead, what we got were legacy systems that
> > > were slowly brought up to modern standard (and, even then, not completely)
> > > by means of plugging and patching. And, as a software developer, that makes
> > > me sad.
> > >
> > > - Hans
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2013-01-31, at 1:03 AM, Mark Breen <marklbreen at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello Hans-Christian,
> > > >
> > > > I can see that you had some affection for BeOS,
> > > >
> > > > thanks for a nice email,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 28 January 2013 09:50, Hans-Christian Andersen
> > > > <hans.andersen at phulse.com>wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi Mark,
> > > >>
> > > >> No, Haiku is meant to be binary compatible with BeOS, so it does not run
> > > >> Linux binaries from the outset (but it is entirely possible, of course).
> > > >>
> > > >> Haiku is not a new OS. It has been around for a while actually. It's
> > > been
> > > >> around since the early 2000's. The history behind BeOS was that it was a
> > > >> new operating system that was designed to be heavily multi-core and
> > > >> multi-tasking (remember back in those days when the Pentium Pro machines
> > > >> were actually capable of multiple processors?). The company, Be Inc.,
> > > was
> > > >> trying to compete in a heavily Windows dominated market and they were
> > > >> selling machines called BeBox's.
> > > >>
> > > >> Unfortunately, no one was interested in buying anything that wasn't
> > > >> Microsoft at the time, so BeOS never had any traction in the industry,
> > > >> despite being vastly superior (in every way conceivable) to Microsoft
> > > >> Windows.
> > > >>
> > > >> When Apple was failing to produce an update to their operating system,
> > > Mac
> > > >> OS 9, BeOS was one of the two options Apple was considering as being the
> > > >> next update to Apple OS. Unfortunately for Be Inc., Steve Jobs had
> > > returned
> > > >> to Apple and was pushing for NeXT, since this was his project prior to
> > > >> (re)joining Apple.
> > > >>
> > > >> Apple decided to go with NeXT. BeOS's last ditch effort to stay alive
> > > >> among the sharks (Microsoft) failed and the company folded in 2001.
> > > >>
> > > >> It's a shame. BeOS was an amazing operating system. It was far ahead of
> > > >> everything out there from a technology point of view and it ran circles
> > > >> around every other OS in terms of performance and stability at the time.
> > > >>
> > > >> Palm then acquired Be Inc and did bugger all with it (as usual), so the
> > > >> Haiku team took it upon themselves to rewrite BeOS and they called it
> > > >> Haiku. It's been in alpha forever because it is enough of a forgotten OS
> > > >> that few people care, but enough care to spend time working on it with a
> > > >> passion.
> > > >>
> > > >> Unfortunately, Haiku can only claim to be BeOS compatible. They had to
> > > >> rewrite everything, so it isn't really the same OS underneath, but
> > > they've
> > > >> done an excellent job considering!
> > > >>
> > > >> R.I.P. BeOS.
> > > >>
> > > >> - Hans
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On 2013-01-28, at 1:15 AM, Mark Breen <marklbreen at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Hello Jim
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Do you think that Linux apps will install and run on Haiku?  If not,
> > > does
> > > >>> it have future at all?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I do admire the vision of anyone that attempts to start a new OS.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On 28 January 2013 07:10, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> So here is something interesting...another OSS and it is not Linux
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> It is called Haiku. Whether the OS, based on BeOS, will make it past
> > > the
> > > >>>> development stage is a question as they are still trying to put enough
> > > >>>> funds
> > > >>>> together to make the dream a reality.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Below is their site:
> > > >>>> https://www.haiku-os.org/
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Here is a Wikipedia oversight:
> > > >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiku_(operating_system)
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> And a link to many images of the various product screens:
> > > >>
> > > http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_rn=1&gs_ri=hp&cp=8&gs_id=
> > > >>
> > > 4&xhr=t&q=Haiku+OS&biw=1174&bih=649&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&um=1&ie=UTF-
> > > >>>> 8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=bSIGUaPJNpCUigLw7oHoDg
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> And finally a article from a recent product convert:
> > > >>>> http://blog.leahhanson.us/falling-for-haiku-os.html
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Jim
> > > >>>>
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