[dba-Tech] Relational v NoSQL

On 2013-02-08 1:00 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi Peter:
>
> I predict will be a long while before MySQL disappears from the landscape as
> MySQL has such an advantage being a very well known and established product.

It's a web hosting staple, so it won't go away till there are 
fundamental changes in that technology.

> OTOH, MySQL's adoption, for the last few months has been completely flat.

Yes.

> Providers of the database have used MySQL as a stable and inexpensive
> alternative to more pricey options. This is no longer the case.

Did you mean customers? Yes.

>
> As soon as the forks of MySQL like MariaDB start releasing sets of modern
> and competing features and MySQL is offering the same but only at a
> substantual price, the change will happen rapidly.

So far, Oracle has MariaDB developers running as fast as they can just 
to avoid falling further behind.

PB

> Right now there is no
> advantage for migrating to another MySQL fork other than to avoid potential,
> Oracle based patent infingements.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 6:50 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Relational v NoSQL
>
> On 2013-02-07 8:30 PM, Hans-Christian Andersen wrote:
>> It's hasn't quite yet, but spread the word. These things take time. :)
> MariaDB hasn't supplanted MySQL. To do that, Monty would have to
> persuade a few million hosting providers to install & support it.
>
> If Oracle continues squeezing the open source MySQL edition, though, it
> may start to happen.
>
> PB
>
> -----
>
>> - Hans
>>
>>
>> On 2013-02-07, at 5:17 PM, "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Stuart:
>>>
>>> I thought I recognized your voice. :-)
>>>
>>> I was not aware that MariaDB had supplanted MySQL but I am pleased to
> hear
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
> McLachlan
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 2:05 PM
>>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Relational v NoSQL
>>>
>>> You'repreaching to the choir here. :-)
>>>
>>> Are you aware of an WAMP/XAMP style packages with MariaDB in place of
> MySQL?
>>> -- 
>>> Stuart
>>>
>>> On 7 Feb 2013 at 8:24, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Stuart:
>>>>
>>>> The one thing that could stop any adoption of the new MySQL is Oracle.
>>>>
>>>> "...Since taking control of MySQL, Oracle has jacked up its support
> prices
>>>> and switched to an "open core" model, in which the basic version of the
>>>> database is available for free, but extensions aimed at enterprise
>>> customers
>>>> are proprietary, closed source, and cost a pretty penny..."
>>>>
>>>> If the product development, under Oracle, runs true to form few Startup
>>>> development companies, if any will be following changes in MySQL as they
>>>> will be moving towards more reliable products or even forks like
> MariaDB,
>>>> for example.
>>>>
>>>> Many (Most) of the major players in the computer industry today, got
> their
>>>> start with database products like MySQL. If MySQL was not OSS with a GPL
>>>> type license we might have not had FaceBook or Amazon or EBay, today.
>>>>
>>>> If Oracle follows true to form it will not be long before MySQL will no
>>>> longer be used in the leading edge development market and MySQL will
>>> follow
>>>> the route of other over priced products like DBase, FoxPro, Clipper,
>>>> DataFlex, Paradox, etc, into history.
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
>>> McLachlan
>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 3:37 AM
>>>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>>>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Relational v NoSQL
>>>>
>>>> NoSQL? Memcache?
>>>>
>>>> You could try the new mySQL:
>>>>
>>>> "In addition, MySQL 5.6 allows NoSQL-style access to InnoDB data via the
>>>> Memcached API.
>>>> This means developers can use any of the many existing Memcached clients
>>> and
>>>> libraries to
>>>> bypass the overhead of query parsing, and grab data as simple key-value
>>>> pairs, resulting in
>>>> as much as a 9x performance improvement for SET/INSERT operations."
>>>>
>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/02/06/oracle_mysql_56_vs_mariadb/
>>>>
>>>>
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