[dba-Tech] Now that google apps is not free what do we do for cloud email

Gustav Brock gustav at cactus.dk
Fri Jan 18 05:24:20 CST 2013


Hi Mark et al

These days I wouldn't set up a mail server or service that didn't offer
ActiveSync to sync mail with users' mobile phones or didn't offer a
high-quality web interface for remote users' desktop.

/gustav


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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] På vegne af Mark Breen
Sendt: 18. januar 2013 10:34
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Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Now that google apps is not free what do we do for
cloud email

Hello Hans-Christian,

I have just viewed the video for Zimbra and it looks like a lovely product.

The features of gmail that I liked were

1) quick to set up
2) free so it was no biggie even for very small clients
3) Web interface, so no local files on laptops or pcs
4) no software to install anywhere, no backups, no servers to go down

In summary, it caused me zero worry.

Zimbra would satisify the first three, and I suppose if I have a cloud based
server, I could assume it would never go down, but I would still be an email
administrator.  Not sure if I really want that.

On the other hand, I could create my own Zimbra server and offer email
services to anyone that wanted it - but that is not core business for me.

What do you typically use for a client, the web interface or a local client
such as Thunderbird?

Do you have a spam filter built into Zimbra ?

thanks for informing us of a lovely product.


Mark





On 18 January 2013 03:57, Hans-Christian Andersen
<hans.andersen at phulse.com>wrote:

>
> If you want something free or low cost, perhaps Zimbra might be of 
> interest to you. It's a collaboration server and they have a free open 
> source version. You get email, chat, calendar, contacts, shared 
> document storage, etc. You have to host it on a server, but it's 
> really quite easy to install and maintain and has a web admin 
> interface for managing your accounts and email services. The cost 
> would be as much as it costs for you to host a server (in your office or
some VPS out there).
>
> We've been using it at my company for 5+ years. It's quite stable and 
> reliable to use for businesses. It has a web-based interface for 
> checking your mail and contact management and calendar, etc etc so you 
> can access your emails where ever you like or on the go. But, you can, 
> of course, also just connect Outlook, your phone or whatever other 
> email client application via IMAP.
>
> http://www.zimbra.com/products/zimbra-open-source.html
>
> It's great. The only downside I can think of is that it's not very 
> good for sending high volumes of email, like if you do mass volume 
> mail marketing (but then you would probably be better off having a 
> dedicated server with a highly tuned postfix daemon for that) . But 
> for normal, every day use, it works like a charm and I haven't see any 
> other open source alternatives that quite has the same level of 
> polish, range of productivity features and easy of
installation/maintenance.
>
> Also, if it's important, for a fee, you can also get a MS Exchange 
> adaptor that lets Outlook connect to it as if it was an Exchange 
> server and do all that extra integration stuff that you can do with an 
> Exchange server. But it costs money, because it is proprietary 
> Microsoft technology and you have to pay them a license fee for that.
>
>
> - Hans
>
>
>
> On 2013-01-17, at 9:20 AM, Mark Breen <marklbreen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello All,
> >
> > Since Sept 2006 I have been using Google Apps for company based 
> > email for my clients.
> >
> > As you may know, as of Dec 6th 2012, google no longer offer this 
> > service for free.  It must now be paid for at a rate of US$50 Per user
per year.
> > For a small company 5 - 10 employees, this is not expensive, but 
> > over 5 years, it still amounts to 1250 - 2500.
> >
> > In my opinion, it is still good value for what you get, but I wonder 
> > what you use if you want to have company based *cloud *email for free.
> >
> > Any recommendations ?
> >
> > Mark
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