[dba-Tech] Now that google apps is not free what do we do for cloud email

Hans-Christian Andersen hans.andersen at phulse.com
Fri Jan 18 05:41:55 CST 2013


Hi Gustav,

Just so you know, ActiveSync is now a defunct piece of software. The last release was in 2007; 6 years ago.

mvh,
Hans-Christian Andersen


On 18 Jan 2013, at 03:24, "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:

> Hi Mark et al
> 
> These days I wouldn't set up a mail server or service that didn't offer
> ActiveSync to sync mail with users' mobile phones or didn't offer a
> high-quality web interface for remote users' desktop.
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] På vegne af Mark Breen
> Sendt: 18. januar 2013 10:34
> Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Now that google apps is not free what do we do for
> cloud email
> Hello Hans-Christian,
> 
> I have just viewed the video for Zimbra and it looks like a lovely product.
> 
> The features of gmail that I liked were
> 
> 1) quick to set up
> 2) free so it was no biggie even for very small clients
> 3) Web interface, so no local files on laptops or pcs
> 4) no software to install anywhere, no backups, no servers to go down
> 
> In summary, it caused me zero worry.
> 
> Zimbra would satisify the first three, and I suppose if I have a cloud based
> server, I could assume it would never go down, but I would still be an email
> administrator.  Not sure if I really want that.
> 
> On the other hand, I could create my own Zimbra server and offer email
> services to anyone that wanted it - but that is not core business for me.
> 
> What do you typically use for a client, the web interface or a local client
> such as Thunderbird?
> 
> Do you have a spam filter built into Zimbra ?
> 
> thanks for informing us of a lovely product.
> 
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 18 January 2013 03:57, Hans-Christian Andersen
> <hans.andersen at phulse.com>wrote:
> 
>> 
>> If you want something free or low cost, perhaps Zimbra might be of 
>> interest to you. It's a collaboration server and they have a free open 
>> source version. You get email, chat, calendar, contacts, shared 
>> document storage, etc. You have to host it on a server, but it's 
>> really quite easy to install and maintain and has a web admin 
>> interface for managing your accounts and email services. The cost 
>> would be as much as it costs for you to host a server (in your office or
> some VPS out there).
>> 
>> We've been using it at my company for 5+ years. It's quite stable and 
>> reliable to use for businesses. It has a web-based interface for 
>> checking your mail and contact management and calendar, etc etc so you 
>> can access your emails where ever you like or on the go. But, you can, 
>> of course, also just connect Outlook, your phone or whatever other 
>> email client application via IMAP.
>> 
>> http://www.zimbra.com/products/zimbra-open-source.html
>> 
>> It's great. The only downside I can think of is that it's not very 
>> good for sending high volumes of email, like if you do mass volume 
>> mail marketing (but then you would probably be better off having a 
>> dedicated server with a highly tuned postfix daemon for that) . But 
>> for normal, every day use, it works like a charm and I haven't see any 
>> other open source alternatives that quite has the same level of 
>> polish, range of productivity features and easy of
> installation/maintenance.
>> 
>> Also, if it's important, for a fee, you can also get a MS Exchange 
>> adaptor that lets Outlook connect to it as if it was an Exchange 
>> server and do all that extra integration stuff that you can do with an 
>> Exchange server. But it costs money, because it is proprietary 
>> Microsoft technology and you have to pay them a license fee for that.
>> 
>> 
>> - Hans
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 2013-01-17, at 9:20 AM, Mark Breen <marklbreen at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello All,
>>> 
>>> Since Sept 2006 I have been using Google Apps for company based 
>>> email for my clients.
>>> 
>>> As you may know, as of Dec 6th 2012, google no longer offer this 
>>> service for free.  It must now be paid for at a rate of US$50 Per user
> per year.
>>> For a small company 5 - 10 employees, this is not expensive, but 
>>> over 5 years, it still amounts to 1250 - 2500.
>>> 
>>> In my opinion, it is still good value for what you get, but I wonder 
>>> what you use if you want to have company based *cloud *email for free.
>>> 
>>> Any recommendations ?
>>> 
>>> Mark
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