Hans-Christian Andersen
hans.andersen at phulse.com
Sun Jan 20 16:54:27 CST 2013
I'm sure its possible to be quite productive writing software and managing servers using visual tools and IDE's (I use them myself), but I still find that it's nice working in an environment where there is no overhead of having a complex, resource intensive application / environment and there are some things that are quite easily done in a command line environment that cannot be done easily in a GUI application or cannot be done at all sometimes. It's not about doing it the hard way, it's just about being practical. BASH is so complete and minimal. Why would we need to complicate it further to start a node.js app then to just type: "node myproject.js" or run your Rails app tests with: "rake test" So simple. Then you can benefit from all that additional stuff that GUI apps don't inherently do, unless it was designed that way with built-in support. Like executing one application and piping the resulting data to some other application as a very simple example. I still think, as a developer, if you take the command line away from me, it's like chopping off one of my hands. I'll still do ok, but I just won't be as efficient. To each his or her own, but, in any event, if you want to do anything complex like software development on Ubuntu, any Linux or Unix system, Mac OS X etc, you will inevitably have to drop down to the command line if you are doing anything serious. - Hans On 2013-01-20, at 1:44 PM, Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru> wrote: > Hi Jim and Hans -- > > <<< > ...such are Linux programmers who > have to (like to) do everything the hard way. ;-) >>>> > True ;) > > Thank you for your tips/hints with Ubuntu. > > After my first short experience with Ubuntu running under Win8 Prof. Hyper-V I'm making an assumption that: this is an easy to setup and to handle stuff in its current version. It should become even easier to handle it even for newbies with releasing of the new versions. I'm still able to learn and to start effectively using that OS environment it in a few months if that will be needed. > But nowadays MS Windows gives me much more powerful development environment and most of the mainstream technologies I'm using while developing for MS Windows are applicable for UNIX/Linux development. > Anyway I will try to keep playing with Ubuntu (node.js/Ruby on Rails/...)/learning them if time will allow but I doubt I will have that much of spare time. > > -- Shamil > > Суббота, 19 января 2013, 18:20 -08:00 от "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>: >> The two applications, Node.js and Ruby on Rails are mostly full server based >> products and real men, Linux IT people, don't use GUIs, sorry to say, so to >> install the two applications follow the instructions. In the unlikely event >> that you run into issues Hans knows everything. ;-) >> >> To install Node.js >> >> Open a command terminal window >> Dash home > Terminal >> >> As soon as you enter any command session with sudo... you will be prompted >> for your administrators username and password. >> >> Open Firefox, (I like Chrome so I always installed it right away) shown at >> the left and go to the following site: >> http://www.naumann.cc/?p=312 >> >> Note: you will have to compile node.js so it will run more reliably. Then >> follow the instructions; just cut and past the shown commands in the order >> they are given. >> >> How to install Ruby on Rails >> >> Just like Node.js it is all a manual installation process. If it was more >> popular on the desktop edition of Ubuntu it would be in the "Ubuntu software >> center" and have an easy script already but such are Linux programmers who >> have to (like to) do everything the hard way. ;-) >> >> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-install-ruby-on-rails >> -on-ubuntu-12-04-lts-precise-pangolin-with-rvm >> >> HTH >> Jim >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov >> Shamil >> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 3:46 PM >> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Ubuntu thin client >> >> Thank you, Hans -- >> >> Maybe in the (near) future I will have a look at node.js and Ruby on Rails. >> Currently I can't find how I can get them installed via Ubuntu Software >> Center (and I have just got successfully installed Mono Runtime and >> MonoDevelop). >> >> But I can't find node.js and Ruby on Rails via Ubuntu Software Center. >> Should I use some other ways to get them installed? >> >> Thank you. >> >> -- Shamil >> >> <<< skipped >>> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com