[dba-Tech] Windows 8

Jim Lawrence accessd at shaw.ca
Fri Jan 25 12:29:31 CST 2013


To be honest I trust little that Steve Ballmer may of may not do.

He is a not a terribly practical or pragmatic fellow. I think he is a bit of
a fanatic and a lose cannon. Most companies are client driven, for obvious
reasons. He is assuming that the users will just follow...they wouldn't.

For years Microsoft sought out grass-roots support among the techs. They
actively went to the universities, attended business meeting, club meetings
to demonstrating their products, giving out instructions and inexpensive
software. For the most part that does not happen anymore.

OTOH, staunch companies like Oracle, actively support local clubs, give
regular seminars at the university and still send me and anyone interested,
links to free products and magazines. It has been an extremely effective
sales model for them...they are now the largest and most financially
successful database company in the world.

The trouble is that potential client's see this, they are far from ignorant
of the adventures at Microsoft and they start asking me, for my opinion, as
a consultant and there is no way I can unconditionally give my support. So I
continue with a wait and see attitude and try to keep my options open.

Jim   

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hans-Christian
Andersen
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 9:43 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 8

Hi Jim,

All I can suggest to you is that the current price of Windows 8 is a bargain
of course, but, from the sentiment from the tech podcasts I follow is that
they think Microsoft will lower the price again, because WIn8 upgrade sales
have been lacklustre as it is and raising the price significantly will not
do Microsoft any favours... especially in a climate of falling PC sales.

Buy it if you really think you are going to need it, otherwise, why not save
that money and wait until the next version of Windows?

- Hans


On 2013-01-25, at 9:28 AM, "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Gustav, Jason, Shamil and John:
> 
> Thank you all for your help with Windows 8...now comes the
decisions...still
> six days left.
> 
> Jim 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 1:11 AM
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 8
> 
> Hi Jim
> 
> It renames your existing Windows folder to Windows.old or Windows.000 and
> creates a new Windows folder for the new system.
> But do yourself a favour and obtain an SSD drive. Combined with Win7 and
> indeed Win8 things will start to behave.
> 
> Forget the clients. They always want what they are familiar with.
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] På vegne af Jim Lawrence
> Sendt: 24. januar 2013 21:00
> Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Emne: [dba-Tech] Windows 8
> 
> Windows 8 to buy or not.
> 
> I have had a copy of the Beta version of Windows 8, running off a virtual
> drive, for a while and was wondering what to do next. So far none of my
> clients or friends have indicated the slightest interest in moving towards
> the OS, in fact quite the opposite.
> 
> Now I have been receiving a steady supply of emails from Microsoft saying
> there is still a chance to buy a $39.00 full Windows 8 Pro package before
> the January 31st deadline when the product goes up to it $249+ price.
> 
>
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-ca/windows/buy?ocid=CPRP_r_january13_na_body
> _1_1
> 
> It seem worthy of getting it as it also offers six months of free music
> downloads, to sweeten the deal.
> 
> The question I am having is how the install works...it calls it an update
> and appears that the package is so designed that it will over-right the
> current system(?) I would not mind just downloading the package and
putting
> it on a DVD or portable hard drive for later use but I have no idea how
this
> upgrade works. I have no interest in using up a computer just for a
testbed
> at this point...a virtual drive would be acceptable though.
> 
> Years of working with upgrades have made me suspect of any product claims.
> Has anyone else done this process? What are the results? 
> 
> Jim 
> 
> 
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