John Bartow
john at winhaven.net
Thu Jan 31 08:32:06 CST 2013
Spot with the carrot and stick approach. Google is a company beholden to make profits and they're doing a good job. I'm not why people claim they're not "evil" as this is the type of thing every "evil" company does. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hans-Christian Andersen Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 3:21 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Now that google apps is not free what do we do for cloudemail Yep, Google Apps is no longer free, which makes me very sad, but this is Google's current business model: make things free, kill the competition, and, when they are dead, start charging money for free services (or kill them off altogether, which they have been doing quite a lot, leaving us developers with plenty of broken API's and non-functional apps), Google does a lot of things right, but they do not deserve their reputation and the goodwill of the community by default, as it seems to be right now. - Hans On 2013-01-31, at 1:08 AM, Mark Breen <marklbreen at gmail.com> wrote: > Hello Jim, > > You mention Google Mail is still free. > > Are you referring to gmail single user or do you mean Gmail for domains. > > AFAICS, Gmail for domains (google Apps) is no longer free, even for 1 user. > Am I missing something ? > > > > > On 17 January 2013 18:20, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote: > >> Google mail is still free and if you need a free office product try >> Libra Office (It is OSS so there are not limits or licensing issues) >> and even Microsoft has 25 GB of free Cloud space for a shared file >> directory and then there is dropbox with 10-20GB available. >> >> The tools are all there just have to do some creative thinking. >> >> If you want to stretch further, you can hack some Linux box together >> and you can have unlimited remote sessions through your remote >> desktop (limited of course by resources). You can add in Apache and >> have remote access from anywhere through the WebServer. Then there is >> OpenVPN... >> >> Even with Microsoft, just put a shared folder on a client's server >> and set it up so it can be accessed from anywhere in the network and >> externally though Microsoft's Remote desktop but you are only allows >> two remote sessions, for free. There are many other options that can >> save your client thousands. >> >> Jim >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark >> Breen >> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:20 AM >> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >> Subject: [dba-Tech] Now that google apps is not free what do we do >> for cloudemail >> >> Hello All, >> >> Since Sept 2006 I have been using Google Apps for company based email >> for my clients. >> >> As you may know, as of Dec 6th 2012, google no longer offer this >> service for free. It must now be paid for at a rate of US$50 Per user per year. >> For a small company 5 - 10 employees, this is not expensive, but over >> 5 years, it still amounts to 1250 - 2500. >> >> In my opinion, it is still good value for what you get, but I wonder >> what you use if you want to have company based *cloud *email for free. >> >> Any recommendations ? >> >> Mark >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com