Jim Lawrence
accessd at shaw.ca
Wed Mar 20 13:16:14 CDT 2013
Hi Rocky: A trip of a life-time. :-) I will look into Viber. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 10:23 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A new compiled JavaScript? Not a Skype replacement but a nice smart phone app - Viber - My son and his girlfriend are using it while they're on the road. Free calls anywhere in the world. Got a call from him last night about 11pm - they're un Lukla in Nepal about to start a two week trek to Everest base camp. Thought we wouldn't hear from them once they left Kathmandu but he says there may even be some wi-fi along the way. Quite different than when I was there 40 years ago. R -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 9:25 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A new compiled JavaScript? Hi Shamil: So which products would you suggest would be a good alternative to Skype? Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov Shamil Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 2:50 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A new compiled JavaScript? Hi Jim -- <<< Both are becoming more untrustworthy but the day. >>> Yes. <<< I understand it is a big problem in Russia. >>> Well, one there might suppose that everything is a big problem here :) I assure you - it's not - quite a few but not everything:) BTW, quite some foreigners are working and are living here in Russia. Easy solution for the 'Skype case': Just ignore it - there are many other communication tools free from 'KGB eye and ear'. :) Thank you. -- Shamil Вторник, 19 марта 2013, 19:12 -07:00 от "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>: >Hi Shamil: > >An aside: I have always been a little apprehensive of either >Microsoft's or Google's commitment to any type of programming >environment as they may pull support at a moments notice for any number of reasons. > ><rant on> >They sometimes just create an application for training purposes of >their staff, or because of some GPL licensing agreement, or to muddy >the waters of >another competitor, or on some wild prospecting adventure. Then they >may just pull or drop the program as it may be challenging their >high-end products, or they loose interest, or a application no longer >fits their new model. > >That is why, no matter how interested I am in any application that >either make; I always find myself looking for a quick exit if or when >they bale, yet again. > >Didn't Microsoft just announce they are removing messenger capabilities from >Skype, I guess to many were using it instead of their other Messenger. >Then they are dropping Windows 8 support from their phones, just like >Silverlight. Google has just dropped Google Docs and RSS feeds for >anyone but their paying customers...Most of Google translation >functionality has gone. Google has been making great strides designing >on top of open GPL products and now is trying apply charges to their efforts. > >Then Microsoft has been censured because they have left an backdoor >into their Skype that any government can use...I understand it is a big >problem in Russia. Then the ECM is threatening to out right ban >Google's Glass project unless they will absolutely guarantee privacy for the users. > >Both are becoming more untrustworthy but the day. ><rant off> > >It is now so hard to know which way to go in product development. > >Jim > >-----Original Message----- >From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of >Salakhetdinov Shamil >Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 2:17 PM >To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A new compiled JavaScript? > > Hi Jim -- > >Thank you for your link. > >Concerning your question: "No, I haven't worked with DART." > >Quick googling gives: > >Douglas Crockford, when asked about Dart during his Programming Style >and Your Brain lecture, replied: "So, I've thought for a long time ... >if I could take a clean sheet of paper and write [a new language] that >retains all the goodness of [Javascript] ... I would not have come up >with anything like Dart." (Source: >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dart_ (programming_language ) ) Resume: if >not pure JavaScript (with jQuery etc.) then go TypeScript ( >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TypeScript ) not DART. :) > >Thank you. > >-- Shamil > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com