Salakhetdinov Shamil
mcp2004 at mail.ru
Wed May 15 05:12:44 CDT 2013
Hi Hans -- Thank you, I know what "argumentum ad hominem" means. Actually we can stop here - if not I'd note that I still can't see where I have used "ad hominem attacks" in this thread. Feel free to clarify or not. Thank you. -- Shamil Вторник, 14 мая 2013, 23:37 -07:00 от Hans-Christian Andersen <hans.andersen at phulse.com>: > >"Argumentum ad hominem"... in short, attacking the characteristics or authority of the writer without addressing the substance of the argument. > >Please correct me if I am wrong, but, as far as I know, this discussion from your end has so far been purely about the authenticity and characteristics of the writer and not much to do with the substance of what he/she wrote. > >> Don't take that as a ad hominem/personal attack but your reference to the article we can't agree is it fake >> or real (it doesn't matter for this statement) looks like a "Slippery Slop" argument from here ;) > >> "Microsoft is in trouble: MS Windows servers market share shrinks, MS Windows servers aren't that stable >> as modern Linux ones are... and they (MS) also do not listen to their own devs and they have big troubles >> in (high) level management - see this article from MS insider - so Microsoft and MS Windows must die..." > >You are putting those words into my mouth and you are mistaken. I may agree with one or two of those points, but also disagree with many others. Perhaps you have me confused with someone else? > >- Hans > > > >On 2013-05-14, at 11:20 PM, Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru > wrote: > >> Hi Hans -- >> >> :) >> >> I suppose I haven't used any "ad hominem attacks" here - if you suppose I did please point where have I done that. >> >> Don't take that as a ad hominem/personal attack but your reference to the article we can't agree is it fake or real (it doesn't matter for this statement) looks like a "Slippery Slop" argument from here ;) >> >> "Microsoft is in trouble: MS Windows servers market share shrinks, MS Windows servers aren't that stable as modern Linux ones are... and they (MS) also do not listen to their own devs and they have big troubles in (high) level management - see this article from MS insider - so Microsoft and MS Windows must die..." >> >> Thank you. >> >> -- Shamil >> >> >> Понедельник, 13 мая 2013, 23:45 -07:00 от Hans-Christian Andersen < hans.andersen at phulse.com >: >>> >>> So, you are applying the Fox News strategy, eh? Ad hominem attacks and all? ;-) >>> >>> - Hans >>> >>> >>> On 2013-05-13, at 11:13 PM, Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru > wrote: >>> >>>> OK. (I have been working for a large Western software house for some time - working in that software house headquarters there in the West Europe together with other devs and managers - and I have seen all that politics the (upper) managers like to play so much)... >>>> >>>> ...but I suppose that MS Windows "relative instability" (comparing to Linux) caused not by "managerial politics" but "general flaws" in MS Windows system architecture - as Jim noted "tight coupling" on GUI (infamous "message queue") etc. - that can't be fixed in principle I suppose I can be wrong... >>>> >>>> And I'd not generally use anonymous postings in the "Linux vs. MS Windows war" as that would have opposite effect... >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> -- Shamil; >>>> >>>> >>>> Понедельник, 13 мая 2013, 14:16 -07:00 от Hans-Christian Andersen < hans.andersen at phulse.com >: >>>>> The first one seems plausible to me. The developer made an attempt to provide proof of his/her association with Microsoft. Of course, this all boils down to the credibility of the journalist/blogger who published this. The opinion of one anonymous commenter is even less credible, isn't it? >>>>> >>>>> Anyways, seems plausible to me because we've all been in this business for a while and we all know how businesses tend to cut corners and have a different set of priorities than developers do, etc etc. We often complain about it here. It should be no surprise the same applies to Microsoft as much as it does to any other company, tech or not. >>>>> >>>>> - Hans >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2013-05-13, at 1:45 PM, Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Both. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- Shamil >>>>>> <<< skipped >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com