Arthur Fuller
fuller.artful at gmail.com
Tue May 21 23:29:43 CDT 2013
I agree with you, Jim. If one plans to run multiple OSes using any sort of VM setup, the more RAM the better. I have seen some pretty cheap laptops here that come with 6GB, and that's just for starters. 8GB would be a lot better for this sort of thing. As for me, I no longer see much point in laptops, primarily because almost everything I do is from home. I can pick up re-furbished desktop machines from my local vendor for $50-$150, and a KVM to connect them all to a single keyboard, monitor and mouse, then just flick a switch to determine which box I want to talk to. I have a friend who has taken this concept much further than I. He has a couple of Windows boxes (XP and 7), and about 4 Linux boxes (Ubuntu, Mint, RedHat server and something else). They all run as fast as their hardware will allow. He and I agree that this approach far surpasses any VM approach; but of course it is not portable. For portability, I would say the minimal setup is a laptop with at least 6 GB of RAM, and preferably 8 GB. Given that sort of hardware, the next decision becomes "host boot". Should the host be Linux or Windows? My choice would be Linux as the host boot, and various versions of Windows running inside VirtualBox. That setup would allow visits to clients, loading the appropriate VM on-site, doing what is needed and then closing that VM, so when the work is done, you're back to your comfort zone of Ubuntu or Mint or RedHat. The advantage of that approach is that the Linux footprint is way smaller than any given version of Windows. But as I said, portable hardware systems are not my problem. Should it arise, I can pick up a refurbished laptop for about $350. A. On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote: > Hi Shamil: > > I would be looking at a bigger beast with greater capabilities for running > multiple OSs. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov > Shamil > Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 12:29 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Hyper-V 2012 (was: Latest Linux kernel) > > Hi Jim -- > > > I will be looking for better hardware soon. > That link could be helpful I suppose: > http://techcrunch.com/2013/05/20/welcome-to-laptop-week/ > > Thank you. > > -- Shamil > > Среда, 15 мая 2013, 14:57 -07:00 от "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>: > >Hi Shamil: > > > >Impressive to say the least. I will be looking for better hardware soon. > > > >Jim > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > >[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov > >Shamil > >Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 1:56 PM > >To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > >Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Hyper-V 2012 (was: Latest Linux kernel) > > > > Hi Jim -- > > > >Actually I can run simultaneously only four VMs totaling 8GB of RAM + > >hosting Win8 Prof system with several Visual Studio instances and some > other > >software: "bottle-neck" is RAM, CPU usage is usually less than 25%. I > >haven't used dynamic memory allocation per VM in VMs settings - I have > just > >allocated fixed amount of RAM at start-up for each VM as I rarely need > more > >than four VMs active and more than two VMs loaded with real processing > work. > >Having allocated fixed memory at VM start-up should make VMs running > >quicker I expect... > > > >Yes, all that software runs on ASUS N76Vz laptop: i7/12GB RAM, 256GB SSD > > system disk and 1TB "archive"/VHDs hosting HDD. > > > >Thank you. > > > >-- Shamil > > <<< skipped >>> > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Arthur Cell: 647.710.1314 Prediction is difficult, especially of the future. -- Niels Bohr