Salakhetdinov Shamil
mcp2004 at mail.ru
Wed May 22 01:42:10 CDT 2013
Hi Hans -- <<< It's possible to do "true" multi-core programming without C/C++ >>> Please post some samples for general purpose programming languages and OSes. <<< There are so many other areas of software development where you would be crazy to consider C/C++. >>> True for yesterday, partially true for today, could become false tomorrow as C/C++ standards evolve in Java/C#/functional programming languages direction, and they (C/C++) are getting more and more (open source) libraries to support all kinds of software development subject areas. <<< A tool is only as effective as the programmer(s) using it. >>> Sure. -- Shamil Вторник, 21 мая 2013, 14:24 -07:00 от Hans-Christian Andersen <hans.andersen at phulse.com>: > >It's possible to do "true" multi-core programming without C/C++, but, if your aim is to write another operating system, of course you would want to do the majority of that in some more "bare metal"-ish language. > >There are so many other areas of software development where you would be crazy to consider C/C++. > >> Most of that could be prevented/captured by using solid programming approaches as well as modern development/profiling tools... > >A tool is only as effective as the programmer(s) using it. > >- Hans > > > >On 2013-05-21, at 12:25 AM, Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru > wrote: > >> Hi Hans -- >> >> No, because *nowadays* and many years to come(?) true multi-core programming on general purpose computers (desktop, laptop. moblie/ARM,...) and OSes (MS Windows, Linux/Unix, ...) would be possible to do by using only C/C++ - http://erratasec.blogspot.ru/2013/02/multi-core-scaling-its-not-multi.html#.UZsfhbVplfA .. >> >>> ... buffer overflows, memory leaks and illegible code... >> Most of that could be prevented/captured by using solid programming approaches as well as modern development/profiling tools... >> >> Thank you. >> >> -- Shamil >> >> Понедельник, 20 мая 2013, 23:27 -07:00 от Hans-Christian Andersen < hans.andersen at phulse.com >: >>> >>>> Yes, it's time to get back to "bare metal". BTW: >>> >>> Because buffer overflows, memory leaks and illegible code (etc etc) is so much fun! :-) >>> >>> - Hans >>> >>> >>> On 2013-05-20, at 1:36 AM, Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru > wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Jim -- >>>> <<< skipped >>> >