[dba-Tech] TIOBE Programming Community Index for May 2013

Salakhetdinov Shamil mcp2004 at mail.ru
Wed May 22 01:42:10 CDT 2013


 Hi Hans --

<<< It's possible to do "true" multi-core programming without C/C++ >>>
Please post some samples for general purpose programming languages and OSes.

<<< There are so many other areas of software development where you would be crazy to consider C/C++. >>>
True for yesterday, partially true for today, could become false tomorrow as C/C++ standards evolve in Java/C#/functional programming languages direction, and they (C/C++) are getting more and more (open source) libraries to support all kinds of software development subject areas.

<<< A tool is only as effective as the programmer(s) using it. >>>
Sure.

-- Shamil

Вторник, 21 мая 2013, 14:24 -07:00 от Hans-Christian Andersen <hans.andersen at phulse.com>:
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>It's possible to do "true" multi-core programming without C/C++, but, if your aim is to write another operating system, of course you would want to do the majority of that in some more "bare metal"-ish language.
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>There are so many other areas of software development where you would be crazy to consider C/C++.
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>> Most of that could be prevented/captured by using solid programming approaches as well as modern development/profiling tools...
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>A tool is only as effective as the programmer(s) using it.
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>- Hans
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>On 2013-05-21, at 12:25 AM, Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru > wrote:
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>> Hi Hans --
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>> No, because *nowadays* and many years to come(?) true multi-core programming on general purpose computers (desktop, laptop. moblie/ARM,...) and OSes (MS Windows, Linux/Unix, ...) would be possible to do by using only C/C++ -  http://erratasec.blogspot.ru/2013/02/multi-core-scaling-its-not-multi.html#.UZsfhbVplfA ..
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>>> ... buffer overflows, memory leaks and illegible code...
>> Most of that could be prevented/captured by using solid programming approaches as well as modern development/profiling tools...
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>> Thank you.
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>> -- Shamil
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>> Понедельник, 20 мая 2013, 23:27 -07:00 от Hans-Christian Andersen < hans.andersen at phulse.com >:
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>>>> Yes, it's time to get back to "bare metal". BTW:
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>>> Because buffer overflows, memory leaks and illegible code (etc etc) is so much fun! :-)
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>>> - Hans
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>>> On 2013-05-20, at 1:36 AM, Salakhetdinov Shamil <  mcp2004 at mail.ru > wrote:
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>>>> Hi Jim --
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