Arthur Fuller
fuller.artful at gmail.com
Wed May 22 18:02:00 CDT 2013
Thanks for the link, Jim. By the way, I assume that you know the original meaning of OSS (hint: WWII). Interesting abbreviation for these tempestuous times. A. On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote: > Hi Arthur: > > Thanks for the info and observations. I actually like a laptop as I have > to, > from time to time, move my entire office to a client site. > > I just heard a podcast on something that may interest you as you are using > virtual drives. > > Linux and Apple run onto of a multi-tasking and multi-user system and these > systems have a feature called (FreeBSD) Linux Containers. Using a Linux > container is not like a VMS but a sandboxed region in which another OS can > reside. One computer can host dozens (hundreds) of such apparently isolated > images. This method is used with many Cloud based hosting companies as > there > is limited resources required and the speed of deployment is far faster. > > The downside is that manual initialization and deployment is not a task for > a casual Linux users. Enter a product called Docker, which according to the > documentation, makes the whole process of deploying and managing Linux > containers, easy. > > Check out the following link and think download and try out the package: > > http://www.docker.io/ > > You will also be able to view a lot more explanation, documentation and a > video or two. The product is OSS. > > Jim > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller > Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 9:30 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Hyper-V 2012 (was: Latest Linux kernel) > > I agree with you, Jim. If one plans to run multiple OSes using any sort of > VM setup, the more RAM the better. I have seen some pretty cheap laptops > here that come with 6GB, and that's just for starters. 8GB would be a lot > better for this sort of thing. > > As for me, I no longer see much point in laptops, primarily because almost > everything I do is from home. I can pick up re-furbished desktop machines > from my local vendor for $50-$150, and a KVM to connect them all to a > single keyboard, monitor and mouse, then just flick a switch to determine > which box I want to talk to. I have a friend who has taken this concept > much further than I. He has a couple of Windows boxes (XP and 7), and about > 4 Linux boxes (Ubuntu, Mint, RedHat server and something else). They all > run as fast as their hardware will allow. > > He and I agree that this approach far surpasses any VM approach; but of > course it is not portable. For portability, I would say the minimal setup > is a laptop with at least 6 GB of RAM, and preferably 8 GB. Given that sort > of hardware, the next decision becomes "host boot". Should the host be > Linux or Windows? My choice would be Linux as the host boot, and various > versions of Windows running inside VirtualBox. That setup would allow > visits to clients, loading the appropriate VM on-site, doing what is needed > and then closing that VM, so when the work is done, you're back to your > comfort zone of Ubuntu or Mint or RedHat. The advantage of that approach is > that the Linux footprint is way smaller than any given version of Windows. > > But as I said, portable hardware systems are not my problem. Should it > arise, I can pick up a refurbished laptop for about $350. > > A. > > > On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote: > > > Hi Shamil: > > > > I would be looking at a bigger beast with greater capabilities for > running > > multiple OSs. > > > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Salakhetdinov > > Shamil > > Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 12:29 AM > > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Hyper-V 2012 (was: Latest Linux kernel) > > > > Hi Jim -- > > > > > I will be looking for better hardware soon. > > That link could be helpful I suppose: > > http://techcrunch.com/2013/05/20/welcome-to-laptop-week/ > > > > Thank you. > > > > -- Shamil > > > > Среда, 15 мая 2013, 14:57 -07:00 от "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>: > > >Hi Shamil: > > > > > >Impressive to say the least. I will be looking for better hardware soon. > > > > > >Jim > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > >[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Salakhetdinov > > >Shamil > > >Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 1:56 PM > > >To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > > >Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Hyper-V 2012 (was: Latest Linux > kernel) > > > > > > Hi Jim -- > > > > > >Actually I can run simultaneously only four VMs totaling 8GB of RAM + > > >hosting Win8 Prof system with several Visual Studio instances and some > > other > > >software: "bottle-neck" is RAM, CPU usage is usually less than 25%. I > > >haven't used dynamic memory allocation per VM in VMs settings - I have > > just > > >allocated fixed amount of RAM at start-up for each VM as I rarely need > > more > > >than four VMs active and more than two VMs loaded with real processing > > work. > > >Having allocated fixed memory at VM start-up should make VMs running > > >quicker I expect... > > > > > >Yes, all that software runs on ASUS N76Vz laptop: i7/12GB RAM, 256GB SSD > > > system disk and 1TB "archive"/VHDs hosting HDD. > > > > > >Thank you. > > > > > >-- Shamil > > > > <<< skipped >>> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > -- > Arthur > Cell: 647.710.1314 > > Prediction is difficult, especially of the future. > -- Niels Bohr > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Arthur Cell: 647.710.1314 Prediction is difficult, especially of the future. -- Niels Bohr