Salakhetdinov Shamil
mcp2004 at mail.ru
Mon May 27 03:42:13 CDT 2013
OK Monday, May 27, 2013 1:38 AM -07:00 from Hans-Christian Andersen <hans.andersen at phulse.com>: >Very well. Just dismiss our criticism. It's not going to change anything anyways. > >- Hans > > > >On 2013-05-27, at 1:33 AM, Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru > wrote: > >> Sorry, Hans, your target user group seems to be rather old aged: for many years, when the first PC games with GUI appeared kids (and adult computer gamers) used to learn to move and point mouse cursor on every visible object, in every corner of display screen, every screen side looking for "charms", magic wands, weapons, other helping to pass the games' quests tools... >> >> -- Shamil >> >> Monday, May 27, 2013 1:19 AM -07:00 from Hans-Christian Andersen < hans.andersen at phulse.com >: >>> Having magic corners is also antithetical to a GUI. I'm sure I'm not the first person for you to have heard this from. It's one of the main complaints about Windows 8 across the internet. >>> >>> - Hans >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2013-05-27, at 12:45 AM, Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru > wrote: >>> >>>> Well, you can still use just point and click if you wish: >>>> >>>> - move mouse cursor to the top-left corner while in Win8 GUI mode - minimized desktop box will appear - click on it to get into Win classic desktop mode; >>>> - move mouse cursor to the bottom-left corner while in Win classic GUI desktop mode - minimized Win 8 Start desktop will appear - click on it to get into Win 8 Start desktop. >>>> >>>> Still, try to teach your users to use hot-keys as they have been used by MS WIndows power-users from the very first MS Windows versions - tell them that hotkeys will make them working much quicker with MS Windows, and the one who gets the ability to freely work with MS Windows by using hot-keys gets into higher users league - power-users... >>>> >>>> -- Shamil >>>> >>>> Monday, May 27, 2013 12:30 AM -07:00 from Hans-Christian Andersen < hans.andersen at phulse.com >: >>>>> This is antithetical to a GUI (graphical user interface). I really don't see any difference between this and enter commands into a text based interface? >>>>> >>>>> Isn't this a fundamental problem? >>>>> >>>>> - Hans >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2013-05-27, at 12:20 AM, Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Stuart -- >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd propose your users to learn just three hot-keys for starters: >>>>>> >>>>>> - [WindowsKey] + [D] - get to MS Windows classic desktop; >>>>>> - [CTRL]+[ESC] - get to Win8 'Start' screen/channels; >>>>>> - [WindowsKey] + [Tab] - switch between Win8 active channels. >>>>>> >>>>>> as well as continue to use point and click. >>>>>> >>>>>> If they will afford that learning curve then they can get more hot-keys learned from provided links and/or your assistance. >>>>>> If not - they can use just [WindowsKey] + D to get to Windows classic desktop and then use mouse point and click for program icons short-cuts you can get placed on their desktops. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- Shamil >>>>>> >>>>>> Monday, May 27, 2013 4:50 PM +10:00 from "Stuart McLachlan" < stuart at lexacorp.com.pg >: >>>>>>> My average users has enough difficulty with point and click. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There's no way they are going to use "30 Hotkeys", "50 or 100 keyboard shortcuts" or "touch >>>>>>> and mouse gestures". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Most of them still don't get the notion of a context sensitve right click menu. (and they have >>>>>>> no idea what that little wheel does) :-( >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Stuart >>>>>>> >>>> <<< skipped >>> >>>>> >