[dba-Tech] Windows 8: Not!

Arthur Fuller fuller.artful at gmail.com
Mon May 27 07:01:30 CDT 2013


I definitely fall into the market segment called Old Farts. I have never
played even one video game in my life. When I want to play a game on my
computer, I visit chess.com.

Thanks for the tips on the Windows8 [WindowsKey] + D and +R commands. I
don't yet have a Windows 8 computer, but my best friend does, so next time
I visit I'll be sure to try them out.




On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 4:42 AM, Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru>wrote:

>  OK
>
>
> Monday, May 27, 2013 1:38 AM -07:00 from Hans-Christian Andersen <
> hans.andersen at phulse.com>:
> >Very well. Just dismiss our criticism. It's not going to change anything
> anyways.
> >
> >- Hans
> >
> >
> >
> >On 2013-05-27, at 1:33 AM, Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
> wrote:
> >
> >> Sorry, Hans, your target user group seems to be rather old aged: for
> many years, when the first PC games with GUI appeared kids (and adult
> computer gamers) used to learn to move and point mouse cursor on every
> visible object, in every corner of display screen, every screen side
> looking for "charms", magic wands, weapons, other helping to pass the
> games' quests tools...
> >>
> >> -- Shamil
> >>
> >> Monday, May 27, 2013 1:19 AM -07:00 from Hans-Christian Andersen <
> hans.andersen at phulse.com >:
> >>> Having magic corners is also antithetical to a GUI. I'm sure I'm not
> the first person for you to have heard this from. It's one of the main
> complaints about Windows 8 across the internet.
> >>>
> >>> - Hans
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 2013-05-27, at 12:45 AM, Salakhetdinov Shamil <  mcp2004 at mail.ru >
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Well, you can still use just point and click if you wish:
> >>>>
> >>>> - move mouse cursor to the top-left corner while in Win8 GUI mode -
> minimized desktop box will appear - click on it to get into Win classic
> desktop mode;
> >>>> - move mouse cursor to the bottom-left corner while in Win classic
> GUI desktop mode - minimized Win 8 Start desktop will appear - click on it
> to get into Win 8 Start desktop.
> >>>>
> >>>> Still, try to teach your users to use hot-keys as they have been used
> by MS WIndows power-users from the very first MS Windows versions - tell
> them that hotkeys will make them working much quicker with MS Windows, and
> the one who gets the ability to freely work with MS Windows by using
> hot-keys gets into higher users league - power-users...
> >>>>
> >>>> -- Shamil
> >>>>
> >>>> Monday, May 27, 2013 12:30 AM -07:00 from Hans-Christian Andersen <
> hans.andersen at phulse.com >:
> >>>>> This is antithetical to a GUI (graphical user interface). I really
> don't see any difference between this and enter commands into a text based
> interface?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Isn't this a fundamental problem?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - Hans
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 2013-05-27, at 12:20 AM, Salakhetdinov Shamil <  mcp2004 at mail.ru> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Stuart --
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'd propose your users to learn just three hot-keys for starters:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> - [WindowsKey] + [D] - get to MS Windows classic desktop;
> >>>>>> - [CTRL]+[ESC] - get to Win8 'Start' screen/channels;
> >>>>>> - [WindowsKey]  + [Tab] - switch between Win8 active channels.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> as well as continue to use point and click.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If they will afford that learning curve then they can get more
> hot-keys learned from provided links and/or your assistance.
> >>>>>> If not - they can use just [WindowsKey] + D to get to Windows
> classic desktop and then use mouse point and click for program icons
> short-cuts you can get placed on their desktops.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -- Shamil
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Monday, May 27, 2013 4:50 PM +10:00 from "Stuart McLachlan" <
> stuart at lexacorp.com.pg >:
> >>>>>>> My average users has enough difficulty with point and click.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> There's no way they are going to use "30 Hotkeys", "50 or 100
> keyboard shortcuts" or "touch
> >>>>>>> and mouse gestures".
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Most of them still don't get the notion of a context sensitve
> right click menu.  (and they have
> >>>>>>> no idea what that little wheel does)   :-(
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Stuart
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> <<< skipped >>>
> >>>>>
> >
>
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