Arthur Fuller
fuller.artful at gmail.com
Mon May 27 07:01:30 CDT 2013
I definitely fall into the market segment called Old Farts. I have never played even one video game in my life. When I want to play a game on my computer, I visit chess.com. Thanks for the tips on the Windows8 [WindowsKey] + D and +R commands. I don't yet have a Windows 8 computer, but my best friend does, so next time I visit I'll be sure to try them out. On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 4:42 AM, Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru>wrote: > OK > > > Monday, May 27, 2013 1:38 AM -07:00 from Hans-Christian Andersen < > hans.andersen at phulse.com>: > >Very well. Just dismiss our criticism. It's not going to change anything > anyways. > > > >- Hans > > > > > > > >On 2013-05-27, at 1:33 AM, Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru > > wrote: > > > >> Sorry, Hans, your target user group seems to be rather old aged: for > many years, when the first PC games with GUI appeared kids (and adult > computer gamers) used to learn to move and point mouse cursor on every > visible object, in every corner of display screen, every screen side > looking for "charms", magic wands, weapons, other helping to pass the > games' quests tools... > >> > >> -- Shamil > >> > >> Monday, May 27, 2013 1:19 AM -07:00 from Hans-Christian Andersen < > hans.andersen at phulse.com >: > >>> Having magic corners is also antithetical to a GUI. I'm sure I'm not > the first person for you to have heard this from. It's one of the main > complaints about Windows 8 across the internet. > >>> > >>> - Hans > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 2013-05-27, at 12:45 AM, Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru > > wrote: > >>> > >>>> Well, you can still use just point and click if you wish: > >>>> > >>>> - move mouse cursor to the top-left corner while in Win8 GUI mode - > minimized desktop box will appear - click on it to get into Win classic > desktop mode; > >>>> - move mouse cursor to the bottom-left corner while in Win classic > GUI desktop mode - minimized Win 8 Start desktop will appear - click on it > to get into Win 8 Start desktop. > >>>> > >>>> Still, try to teach your users to use hot-keys as they have been used > by MS WIndows power-users from the very first MS Windows versions - tell > them that hotkeys will make them working much quicker with MS Windows, and > the one who gets the ability to freely work with MS Windows by using > hot-keys gets into higher users league - power-users... > >>>> > >>>> -- Shamil > >>>> > >>>> Monday, May 27, 2013 12:30 AM -07:00 from Hans-Christian Andersen < > hans.andersen at phulse.com >: > >>>>> This is antithetical to a GUI (graphical user interface). I really > don't see any difference between this and enter commands into a text based > interface? > >>>>> > >>>>> Isn't this a fundamental problem? > >>>>> > >>>>> - Hans > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On 2013-05-27, at 12:20 AM, Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Hi Stuart -- > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I'd propose your users to learn just three hot-keys for starters: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> - [WindowsKey] + [D] - get to MS Windows classic desktop; > >>>>>> - [CTRL]+[ESC] - get to Win8 'Start' screen/channels; > >>>>>> - [WindowsKey] + [Tab] - switch between Win8 active channels. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> as well as continue to use point and click. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If they will afford that learning curve then they can get more > hot-keys learned from provided links and/or your assistance. > >>>>>> If not - they can use just [WindowsKey] + D to get to Windows > classic desktop and then use mouse point and click for program icons > short-cuts you can get placed on their desktops. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- Shamil > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Monday, May 27, 2013 4:50 PM +10:00 from "Stuart McLachlan" < > stuart at lexacorp.com.pg >: > >>>>>>> My average users has enough difficulty with point and click. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> There's no way they are going to use "30 Hotkeys", "50 or 100 > keyboard shortcuts" or "touch > >>>>>>> and mouse gestures". > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Most of them still don't get the notion of a context sensitve > right click menu. (and they have > >>>>>>> no idea what that little wheel does) :-( > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> Stuart > >>>>>>> > >>>> <<< skipped >>> > >>>>> > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Arthur Cell: 647.710.1314 Prediction is difficult, especially of the future. -- Niels Bohr