[dba-Tech] Visual Studio

Hi Jim

I love you state "limited features and capabilities" even for the ultimate version.

Why not start with the Express version and let's talk about the limitations you find. That said, I use the Pro version which comes with the Action Pack Subscription. I don't think I ever outgrow that. The other versions are for large and enterprise teams.

My previous son-in-law, a PHP-Perl-C#-younameit programmer himself, at the time of VS2005 adviced me that route. But he warned me: If you decide so, you will never look back. 
He was right, although I still do a lot of Access programming. But it seems so much old school, and I miss my VS. VS is built for programmers by programmers and for programming, nothing super-user here, and you feel it. Every feature you discover (and _that_ is an ongoing process) is made to easen the work of the programmer.

I cannot speak about the alternatives you mention. I neither look back nor elsewhere.

/gustav

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Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> på vegne af Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: 17. februar 2014 18:35
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: [dba-Tech] Visual Studio

Hi All:

I am looking for a package from which to do all my programming and have seriously looked at Visual Studio and Adobe.

As an over-view, do I need Visual Studio so I will be able to work with multiple languages and be able to use their features of exposing options and auto-completion. Well that is pretty easy to get as there are a number of basic editors that provide those capabilities and they do not cost anything. Below is a link to an image of one possible solution from a basic programming editor called textmate:

http://www.infoworld.com/sites/infoworld.com/files/media/image/textmate_lg.jpg

I then have to ask is there enough languages(?) but a real programming solution is needed with all the compiling, great code editing, navigation, syntax highlighting, code folding, great debugging on multiple browsers (JavaScript functions) and even source control with SVN/Github support.

When I looked at Visual Studio three points became apparent.

1. It does not have a great range in languages or databases.
2. It only runs on one platform.
3. The full-meal-deal; enterprise version can cost as much as $13,299  with a $4,249 annual renewal fee.

That is three-strikes as far as I am concerned. Overpriced with limited features and capabilities.

As I have discovered and researched there are other better solutions. The following products run on all the major platforms, connect to all the major databases and support most of the major languages. Note: just like Visual Studio there are express versions.

First there is the Adobe studio, which runs off the web and has "personal editions" that are not crippled and can be "rented" at a reasonable price. There are so many choices of packages course.

Second there is "Sublime Text". For the enterprise version it is not free but $70.00 seems a reasonable charge.

http://www.sublimetext.com

...And third there is WebStorm. Again the enterprise version is not free but $99.00, I can handle that.

http://www.jetbrains.com/webstorm

It will be difficult to decide which of these two products would be the best and if anyone knows of any other great solution I would love to hear about them.

Jim