Jim Lawrence
accessd at shaw.ca
Sun Jan 12 13:41:19 CST 2014
Hi Shamil: I think that "fluid layouts" as just the start to whole task of building responsive web designs. It is much more complex than that. The person that could really articulate on this subject would be Hans as he works and manages in these environments commercially and daily...but he will be offline for a bit...it seems he is a new father. Here is a interesting link to RWD implementation that you might find interesting and informative (tutorials): http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/responsive-web-tutorials/ I think AngularJS is a great package for building input and storing data locally. But at this point it becomes extremely difficult as there are so many great frameworks, webkits and plugin that will allow anyone to create virtually any number of great user experiences. The problem I see is that there are too many choices. The first selector has to be universality. That should eliminate about a dozen from the hundred or so options. There there is the BE and that can extend from any set of databases, from the standards to Node.JS. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 5:51:02 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FYI: PrePros - an awesome Web design and development tool... Hi Jim -- Yes, I have missed it, gestures support should be added, although a few basic ones should be enough for starters IMO otherwise you risk to have never get started your RWD(Responsive Web Design)-development (ad)ventures: hammer.js you referred looks like a good choice for gestures support Javascript framework. So the "three pillars" (minimal minimorum set) for the development of the modern HTML based user interfaces/RWD could be selected as the following: - 1) "fluid layouts": SUSY (SASS, Compass); - 2) data biding: AngularJS; - 3) UXD - User Experience Design: modernizr.js + jQuery + hammer.js Of course one can propose many other combinations of the above "three pillars" but it's time to make a decision :) > https://developers.google.com/webmasters/smartphone-sites/details Good source, although it doesn't support RWD :) Neither Apple.com does. And microsoft.com, msdn.com, android.com, yahoo.com,... do support RWD... > interbreed = ??? Sorry for my English: crossbreed, hybrid - would that be more appropriate? Thank you. -- Shamil Saturday, January 11, 2014 8:56 PM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>: >Hi Shamil: > >That is an issue. > >Having a responsive website design which adapts to which device is being used can be complicated as it is not just as simple as device sensitive design. Allowing the page to flex to the screen real estate is just the starting point: > >https://developers.google.com/webmasters/smartphone-sites/details > >Then next there is features like gestures that should be added; check out the following library: > >http://eightmedia.github.io/hammer.js/ >http://eightmedia.github.io/hammer.js/examples/events.html > >PS: interbreed = ??? > >Jim > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru > >To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com > >Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 1:19:50 PM >Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FYI: PrePros - an awesome Web design and development tool... > > HI Jim -- > >Yes, your AngularJS crude basic sample is looking good but it doesn't adapt to the media it used on (just checked it on WinPhone). >Anybody who will interbreed > >http://metaware.github.io/angular-invoicing > >with > >http://net.tutsplus.com/tutorials/html-css-techniques/responsive-grids-with-susy/ ( http://sms-web.biz/susy_sample/ ) > >will "thwart jackpot" in responsive user-friendly intuitive web design :) > >Thank you. > >-- Shamil > >Saturday, January 11, 2014 1:38 PM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence < accessd at shaw.ca >: >>Hi Shamil: >> >>This looks really nice. >> >>What I am interested is more than layout but functionality. To that end I am working to build a fully operational invoicing system. Find attached a link to crude basic example but it is very fast and may be, when fully decked out, with all attached tables and numerous other required componenets, good enough for a real-time invoicing system: >> >> http://metaware.github.io/angular-invoicing >> >>Jim >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru > >>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com > >>Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 11:56:25 PM >>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FYI: PrePros - an awesome Web design and development tool... >> >> Hi Jim -- >> >>This is just a sample you can find here: http://net.tutsplus.com/tutorials/html-css-techniques/responsive-grids-with-susy/ >> >>As for my tests - I have put the above sample files here http://sms-web.biz/susy_sample/ for a few days (this is IIS on parking.ru hosting) - try it. >> >>Thank you. >> >>-- Shamil >> >> >>Friday, January 10, 2014 6:54 PM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence < accessd at shaw.ca >: >>>Hi Shamil: >>> >>>That is any excellent job. Have you posted/hosted the result on your website yet? (Are you using IIS or Apache?) >>> >>>If the package can make a real invoicing entry page and with all the appropriate database attachments, I will be looking very seriously as I have to migrate to just such an application with the next two months. >>> >>>Jim >> >><<< skipped >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >>_______________________________________________ >>dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > >-- >Салахетдинов Шамиль >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- Салахетдинов Шамиль _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com